Way OT: Winter Cold (illness)

The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are the
Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables and
receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in South
Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!

Holy Cow Jill. Not a lot of good news there. Sorry to hear that you are
ailing, and sorry to hear that you will be losing your job. I guess you
will have to get out and start looking for another job. There is no need
to stick out to the end if something better comes along.

I was lucky to have a degree of job stability when working for the
government but that was not a sure thing. I transferred out of the
maintenance branch when it became increasingly obvious that they were
going to be contracting out a lot of the work. I was luck to get into
the enforcement branch before that happened. Three of my former
positions were eliminated. It was a good move because that was where
most of the new job postings were. Even that was not a guaranteed
because there was always talk of privatizing that or having it shut down
and taken over by another agency.

Every year they would send us to "changes and transition" seminars where
they advised us how to deal with the loss of our jobs. One line they
pushed was to view it as an opportunity, a chance to get out and do what
we always wanted to do. Nuts to that. No one wants to put years and
years into a job only to have to turn around and look for a new job and
to start from the bottom.
Best of luck to you.

Bruce

2024-12-24 16:21:27 UTC

On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:50:12 -0500, Dave Smith

Enough about somebody else. Back to Dave Smith.

Post by Dave Smith
I was lucky to have a degree of job stability when working for the
government but that was not a sure thing. I transferred out of the
maintenance branch when it became increasingly obvious that they were
going to be contracting out a lot of the work. I was luck to get into
the enforcement branch before that happened. Three of my former
positions were eliminated. It was a good move because that was where
most of the new job postings were. Even that was not a guaranteed
because there was always talk of privatizing that or having it shut down
and taken over by another agency.
Every year they would send us to "changes and transition" seminars where
they advised us how to deal with the loss of our jobs. One line they
pushed was to view it as an opportunity, a chance to get out and do what
we always wanted to do. Nuts to that. No one wants to put years and
years into a job only to have to turn around and look for a new job and
to start from the bottom.
Best of luck to you.

--
Bruce
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Jill McQuown

2024-12-24 16:23:41 UTC

The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are
the Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables
and receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in
South Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!

Thank you, Dave. Something better coming along in a small town is
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon" so they hire someone younger, even
if that means the younger person will move on and they'll have to hire
someone else in a year. They also don't have to pay them well.

I also can't see to drive in the dark or at dusk (no street lights) so
my work hours need to take that into consideration.

I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I want
to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work in the
office building. We'll see.

I was lucky to have a degree of job stability when working for the
government but that was not a sure thing. I transferred out of the
maintenance branch when it became increasingly obvious that they were
going to be contracting out a lot of the work. I was luck to get into
the enforcement branch before that happened. Three of my former
positions were eliminated. It was a good move because that was where
most of the new job postings were. Even that was not a guaranteed
because there was always talk of privatizing that or having it shut down
and taken over by another agency.

I've never worked for the government but I can imagine the bureaucracy.

Every year they would send us to "changes and transition" seminars where
they advised us how to deal with the loss of our jobs. One line they
pushed was to view it as an opportunity, a chance to get out and do what
we always wanted to do. Nuts to that. No one wants to put years and
years into a job only to have to turn around and look for a new job and
to start from the bottom.
Best of luck to you.

Thank you.

Jill

Ed P

2024-12-24 18:36:57 UTC

Thank you, Dave. Something better coming along in a small town is
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon" so they hire someone younger, even
if that means the younger person will move on and they'll have to hire
someone else in a year. They also don't have to pay them well.
I also can't see to drive in the dark or at dusk (no street lights) so
my work hours need to take that into consideration.
I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I want
to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work in the
office building. We'll see.
Thank you.
Jill

Would be nice to work to full retirement. When I hit 66, I started 4
days, later 3 days. I liked my job. There may be some part time
opportunities you may like. Any potential in the building you are in
now? I imagine they will all know you are available soon.

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 13:18:42 UTC

Thank you, Dave. Something better coming along in a small town is
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman.
They presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon" so they hire someone
younger, even if that means the younger person will move on and
they'll have to hire someone else in a year. They also don't have to
pay them well.
I also can't see to drive in the dark or at dusk (no street lights) so
my work hours need to take that into consideration.
I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I
want to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work
in the office building. We'll see.
Thank you.
Jill

The job I have now is part time, 4 days a week, hours 10-4 M-Thu, but
flexible. Excellent pay. The small building where I work, the offices
are small, mostly leased to different types of small independently owned
companies. None of them need employees. But some of them might know
someone who does. :)

Jill

Tony

2024-12-26 14:21:30 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
The job I have now is part time, 4 days a week, hours 10-4 M-Thu, but
flexible. Excellent pay. The small building where I work, the offices
are small, mostly leased to different types of small independently owned
companies. None of them need employees. But some of them might know
someone who does. :)
Jill

Think you could work in this office?

https://postimg.cc/v42HzGsP

Jill McQuown

2024-12-26 22:54:02 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
The job I have now is part time, 4 days a week, hours 10-4 M-Thu, but
flexible. Excellent pay. The small building where I work, the
offices are small, mostly leased to different types of small
independently owned companies. None of them need employees. But
some of them might know someone who does. :)
Jill

Think you could work in this office?
https://postimg.cc/v42HzGsP

WTF does that even mean?

Jill

Hank Rogers

2024-12-26 23:19:19 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
The job I have now is part time, 4 days a week, hours 10-4 M-Thu, but
flexible.Â Excellent pay.Â The small building where I work, the
offices are small, mostly leased to different types of small
independently owned Â Â companies.Â None of them need employees.Â
But some of them might know someone who does. :)
Jill

>
>
Think you could work in this office?
https://postimg.cc/v42HzGsP

WTF does that even mean?
Jill

Damn, did someone grease your Majesty's flying broom with KY jelly?

Tony

2024-12-27 07:26:48 UTC

Post by Tony
Think you could work in this office?
https://postimg.cc/v42HzGsP

WTF does that even mean?
Jill

Ask Dave Smith.

Bruce

2024-12-27 10:39:55 UTC

On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:54:02 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
The job I have now is part time, 4 days a week, hours 10-4 M-Thu, but
flexible. Excellent pay. The small building where I work, the
offices are small, mostly leased to different types of small
independently owned companies. None of them need employees. But
some of them might know someone who does. :)
Jill

Think you could work in this office?
https://postimg.cc/v42HzGsP

WTF does that even mean?

It means What The Fuck.

--
Bruce
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

Bruce

2024-12-27 10:52:10 UTC

On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:54:02 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
The job I have now is part time, 4 days a week, hours 10-4 M-Thu, but
flexible. Excellent pay. The small building where I work, the
offices are small, mostly leased to different types of small
independently owned companies. None of them need employees. But
some of them might know someone who does. :)
Jill

Think you could work in this office?
https://postimg.cc/v42HzGsP

WTF does that even mean?

It's a tiny office with no room for colleagues you could try to
control. And if you get too worked up, you can stick your head in the
cooler.

--
Bruce
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

Janet

2024-12-24 22:46:51 UTC

In article <vken6d$1sgr8$***@dont-email.me>,
***@comcast.net says...

Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.

One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.

You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.

You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.

The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Janet UK

Bruce

2024-12-24 23:21:21 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Hahahahahaha! Good one!

--
Bruce
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

Janet

2024-12-25 23:16:05 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Hahahahahaha! Good one!

Did you mistake that for a joke? Silly man.

Janet UK

Bruce

2024-12-25 23:31:07 UTC

Post by Janet

Post by Janet
That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Hahahahahaha! Good one!

Did you mistake that for a joke? Silly man.

Considering her abrasive behaviour in RFC, and her resulting
unpopularity here, she might cause friction in a team or among her
colleagues. A little detail you forgot :)

--
Bruce
<https://i.postimg.cc/zf7JhPvB/the-lord-of-the-rings.jpg>

Jill McQuown

2024-12-26 22:55:26 UTC

Post by Janet

Post by Jill McQuown
Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Hahahahahaha! Good one!

Did you mistake that for a joke? Silly man.
Janet UK

Wno the hell knows what Bruce is talking about at any given time.

Jill

Hank Rogers

2024-12-26 23:20:30 UTC

Something better coming along in a small town is

problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the
lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman.
They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Hahahahahaha! Good one!

Did you mistake that for a joke? Silly man.
Janet UK

Wno the hell knows what Bruce is talking about at any given time.
Jill

Your Highness is overwrought.

Mike Duffy

2024-12-27 21:15:27 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
Wno the hell knows what Bruce is talking about at any given time.

Your Highness is overwrought.

She has a point, Hank. Bruce is opposed to most people here
just due to being on the wrong side of the planet.

Hank Rogers

2024-12-25 01:11:53 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.

Not to mention her Majesty's sweet disposition and even temper.

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 15:33:09 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.

Not really. The company is based out of New York and the only reason
there is an office here in SC is because people started working remotely
due to the pandemic. They actually closed the physical office a couple
of years ago.

Post by Jill McQuown
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Hopefully so!

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.

Actually I *am* seeking a long term job. I'm not looking for "temp work".

Post by Jill McQuown
You bring a lifetime of experience, adaptability, calm
self confidence. You can do your kind of work with one
hand tied behind your back, because you've done it all a
thousand times before.
You don't need to build a career, you won't be jostling
for promotion, or dabbling in office politics. You are
single, own a home, won't get pregnant, divorced,
menopausal, or move away. No messy midlife dramas will
impinge on colleagues or employer.

True, I'm not looking to build a career. But I would like to stay at
one job for as long as I can. If the owner of this company hadn't
decided to shut things down next year I might well have been working
there until I was 70.

Post by Jill McQuown
The perfect employee. A sensible,stable, flexible,
totally reliable mature person with useful skills and
great references, who is available for fixed short
contracts.
Janet UK

True. I'm stable, mature and have useful skills and great references.
Not interested in short-term contract work.

Jill

Janet

2024-12-25 23:46:35 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
Something better coming along in a small town is

Post by Jill McQuown
problematic. I got very lucky finding this job. Perfect hours, good
pay (NY wages), great manager. I'm not going to leave him in the lurch.

Your boss and manager know lots of other bosses and
managers. Get them to network their contacts on your
availability.

Post by Jill McQuown
One door closes; some one holds another door open and
invites you in.

Hopefully so!

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman. They
presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon"

That's why you are absolutely perfect to fill in for some
employee on temporary absence for maternity leave,
training course etc. You don't seek longterm commitment
from an employer.

Actually I *am* seeking a long term job. I'm not looking for "temp work".

First step, get your foot in the door.

Janet UK

songbird

2024-12-25 04:05:56 UTC

Jill McQuown wrote:
...

Post by Jill McQuown
I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I want
to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work in the
office building. We'll see.

someone with a decent attitude and work ethic is well
worth employing, just put it out there when you talk to
anyone that knows you well that you are looking and
listen.

i hope something turns up for you. :)

songbird

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 14:57:01 UTC

Post by songbird
...

Post by Jill McQuown
I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I want
to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work in the
office building. We'll see.

Thank you, songbird :)

Jill

Carol

2024-12-26 03:30:58 UTC

It won't be easy but start now. It may not be as fancy as what you
have now but in a small poll, there is also hope if you are known
outside your building. Start there.

Post by Jill McQuown
At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman.
They presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon" so they hire someone
younger, even if that means the younger person will move on and
they'll have to hire someone else in a year. They also don't have to
pay them well.

I've had to battle this several times. My skill area is one of those
that is flat out hard to find but adaptable as 'data analysis' always
is.

Post by Jill McQuown
I also can't see to drive in the dark or at dusk (no street lights)
so my work hours need to take that into consideration.

Cataracts? Get the surgery done if you can afford it (medicare will
take care of most of it. Medicare and Tricare takes care of all of it
but that's not an option for you. Employer insurance may cover as well
as Tricare though.

Post by Jill McQuown
I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I
want to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work
in the office building. We'll see.

Check on the ideas right away. They won't last long.

I was lucky to have a degree of job stability when working for the
government but that was not a sure thing. (Snip)

Same here at the end but my division was moved to Millington and I was
not going with them due to Don's medical needs. I found a new one on
my own as HR was tossing me all sorts of crap with 'save pay' at a
lower 'rank' (GS13 in a GS12 job and frozen from any grade raises). I
progressed as a GS13 2 more grade lebels before medical issues forced
me to retire at age 62.

Having contacts matters a LOT in this situation.

I've never worked for the government but I can imagine the
bureaucracy.

Actually, it's not that bad at all. Every job has some of that. Govt
jobs just have some new lingo to get used to. That always happens
anyway, so no big deal.

Rooting for ya Jill!

Jill McQuown

2024-12-26 23:13:45 UTC

It won't be easy but start now. It may not be as fancy as what you
have now but in a small poll, there is also hope if you are known
outside your building. Start there.

There is nothing "fancy" about where I work now. I do have references
from working other jobs prior to this one, though.

I've had to battle this several times. My skill area is one of those
that is flat out hard to find but adaptable as 'data analysis' always
is.

Post by Jill McQuown
I also can't see to drive in the dark or at dusk (no street lights)
so my work hours need to take that into consideration.

No, I don't have cataracts. It's called nyctalopia; have had it since I
was in my 40's. It means not being able to see in low light, dawn and
dusk. If there are abundant street lights, it's not a problem. No
street lights? That's the problem.

Post by Jill McQuown
I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I
want to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work
in the office building. We'll see.

Check on the ideas right away. They won't last long.

Yeah, okay.

I was lucky to have a degree of job stability when working for the
government but that was not a sure thing. (Snip)

Yeah, you realize none of that has anything to do with my situation,
right? I am quite familiar with Millington Naval base since that's one
reason after my father retired from the Marines in 1973 at Parris
Island, SC he moved us to Memphis. So they would have access to medical
care at Millington. Not sure what the heck that has to do with my
looking for a job in Beaufort in 2025. Although there is a Navy
Hospital in Port Royal, SC. It's got nothing to do with me looking for
a job.

Post by Carol
Having contacts matters a LOT in this situation.

I've never worked for the government but I can imagine the
bureaucracy.

Actually, it's not that bad at all. Every job has some of that. Govt
jobs just have some new lingo to get used to. That always happens
anyway, so no big deal.
Rooting for ya Jill!

Thank you.

Jill

Hank Rogers

2024-12-26 23:45:05 UTC

Holy CowÂ Jill. Not a lot of good news there. Sorry to hear that
you are ailing, and sorry to hear that you will be losing your
job. I guess you will have to get out and start looking for
another job. There is no need to stick out to the end if something
better comes along.

It won't be easy but start now. It may not be as fancy as what you
have now but in a small poll, there is also hope if you are known
outside your building. Start there.

There is nothing "fancy" about where I work now. I do have references
from working other jobs prior to this one, though.

At my my age? Most people don't want to hire a 64 year old woman.
They presume "oh, she'll be retiring soon" so they hire someone
younger, even if that means the younger person will move on and
they'll have to hire someone else in a year. They also don't have to
pay them well.

I've had to battle this several times. My skill area is one of those
that is flat out hard to find but adaptable as 'data analysis' always
is.

I also can't see to drive in the dark or at dusk (no street lights)
so my work hours need to take that into consideration.

I have some ideas. Or I may just have to retire. It's not what I
want to do. I enjoy the work I do and like the other people who work
in the office building. We'll see.

Check on the ideas right away. They won't last long.

Yeah, okay.

I was lucky to have a degree of job stability when working for the
government but that was not a sure thing. (Snip)

Having contacts matters a LOT in this situation.

I've never worked for the government but I can imagine the
bureaucracy.

Actually, it's not that bad at all. Every job has some of that. Govt
jobs just have some new lingo to get used to. That always happens
anyway, so no big deal.
Rooting for ya Jill!

Thank you.
Jill

LOL, your Majesty. The more carol kisses your royal ass, the more your
Highness jumps dead center in her shit.

You hate the woman, and that's cool, but you should be honest about it.

Bruce

2024-12-27 00:46:28 UTC

On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 18:13:45 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Carol
Same here at the end but my division was moved to Millington and I was
not going with them due to Don's medical needs. I found a new one on
my own as HR was tossing me all sorts of crap with 'save pay' at a
lower 'rank' (GS13 in a GS12 job and frozen from any grade raises). I
progressed as a GS13 2 more grade lebels before medical issues forced
me to retire at age 62.

Press a button and Carol starts talking. What she'll say is pretty
random.

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2024-12-24 15:46:17 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using lots
of "kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying Lysol
around. I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I had no
appetite. I took an antihistamine when I got home but it did not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever so
I hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last
night. My poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She
wanted to play but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the
"TV room" and I tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to
sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one I've
had in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a sinus
pressure headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are the
Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables and
receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in South
Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

I sincerely hope you eventually end up in the gutter - and then "enjoy"
a long and painful death from some ghastly cancer...

:-D

PS: why don't you call up Sheldon and ask for a job - as you did some
years ago...???

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2024-12-24 16:13:14 UTC

Widder Jill, maybe you could get a waitressing gig at "The Club" - if
you're "lucky" they might even provide you a free meal on your shift...

If you concentrate on *work* (however "menial"), that will take your
mind off of the "pity party" that you are currently holding for
yourself...!!!

😎

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Ed P

2024-12-24 18:28:01 UTC

Not good holiday news. It is possible he may end up selling?
In my 54 years of working, the first three companies were sold/moved and
the fourth I retired before it was sold.

Hopefully, you have enough time to find something as good or better
before it is gone.

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 13:42:14 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using
lots of "kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying
Lysol around. I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I
had no appetite. I took an antihistamine when I got home but it did
not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever
so I hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last
night. My poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She
wanted to play but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the
"TV room" and I tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to
sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one
I've had in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a
sinus pressure headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are
the Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables
and receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in
South Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

Not good holiday news. It is possible he may end up selling?
In my 54 years of working, the first three companies were sold/moved and
the fourth I retired before it was sold.

No, the owner (who lives in NY and most of the other employees are in
the NY area) is not interested in selling the business. This is a very
small company with under 30 employees. He's just done.

Were it not for the Covid-19 pandemic this job would not have
materialized. When it hit, employees started working remotely. My
manager and his wife owned a house down here which they had been renting
out. Long story short, he told the owner "I'll be working remotely from
SC." They moved to their house down here, then he rented a small office
and hired me as his assistant. That was 4 years ago.

Hopefully, you have enough time to find something as good or better
before it is gone.

I'll be looking. Since I knew this was coming I updated my resume
months ago. But this is such a small town, mostly touristy. I lucked
into this job. I will be asking other people who have office space in
the building because I know they all know people. And of course,
uploading my resume to Indeed, which is how my manager found me for this
job in the first place. We talked on the phone, met at the office then
walked to the Tex-Mex restaurant next door where he bought me lunch.
Asked me to send him my references but he pretty much hired me on the spot.

I'm not expecting a miracle like that again.

Jill

2024-12-25 22:13:13 UTC

Not good holiday news.Â It is possible he may end up selling?
In my 54 years of working, the first three companies were sold/moved and
the fourth I retired before it was sold.

No, the owner (who lives in NY and most of the other employees are in the NY
area) is not interested in selling the business. This is a very small
company with under 30 employees. He's just done.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the opportunity. What's the business? Where
does the money come from? I mean, sure, he might be done. But I'm sure he'd
prefer to be done + X USD, if that is an opportunity, over just done.

Give me his number and I'll call him and ask. ;)

Carol

2024-12-26 04:54:48 UTC

Hi Jill, tried an email to you. I may be able to help? We keep it to
email.

Carol

2024-12-26 11:14:55 UTC

Post by Carol
Hi Jill, tried an email to you. I may be able to help? We keep it to
email.
Carol

You are a very kind woman Carol!

Jill McQuown

2024-12-27 14:29:19 UTC

Post by Carol
Hi Jill, tried an email to you. I may be able to help? We keep it to
email.
Carol

Yep, thank you. :)

Jill

Jill McQuown

2024-12-28 15:59:30 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using
lots of "kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying
Lysol around. I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I
had no appetite. I took an antihistamine when I got home but it did
not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever
so I hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last
night. My poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She
wanted to play but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the
"TV room" and I tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to
sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one
I've had in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a
sinus pressure headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are
the Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables
and receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in
South Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

Not good holiday news. It is possible he may end up selling?
In my 54 years of working, the first three companies were sold/moved and
the fourth I retired before it was sold.

No, he's not selling the business. He's just tired of dealing with it
so he's shutting it down.

Hopefully, you have enough time to find something as good or better
before it is gone.

I'll find a job. It will take a little time in this small town but I
have computer skills.

Jill

2024-12-28 16:07:55 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using
lots of "kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying
Lysol around. I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I
had no appetite. I took an antihistamine when I got home but it did
not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever
so I hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last
night. My poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She
wanted to play but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the
"TV room" and I tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to
sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one
I've had in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a
sinus pressure headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are
the Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables
and receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in
South Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

Not good holiday news. It is possible he may end up selling?
In my 54 years of working, the first three companies were sold/moved and
the fourth I retired before it was sold.

No, he's not selling the business. He's just tired of dealing with it
so he's shutting it down.

Hopefully, you have enough time to find something as good or better
before it is gone.

I'll find a job. It will take a little time in this small town but I
have computer skills.
Jill

Mebbe Widder Jill could find her "dream job" - as a NetKKKop, lol...!!!

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songbird

2024-12-29 02:06:04 UTC

Jill McQuown wrote:
...

Post by Jill McQuown
I'll find a job. It will take a little time in this small town but I
have computer skills.

i asked my sis if she needed any more help but it sounds
like she's ok for now.

songbird

Bruce

2024-12-29 03:08:04 UTC

Post by songbird
...

Post by Jill McQuown
I'll find a job. It will take a little time in this small town but I
have computer skills.

i asked my sis if she needed any more help but it sounds
like she's ok for now.

Jill's your sister?

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ItsJoanNotJoAnn

2024-12-24 19:29:21 UTC

UGH! Girl, you have my sympathy, and I hope you have a bunch
of OTC meds there to help knock this out. Just vegetate the
next two days.

Post by Jill McQuown
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are the
Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables and
receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in South
Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

Oh phooey, that IS bad news, but don't give up. No telling
what might come your way in the several weeks. Keep your
eyes and ears open and also see what's available in the
building you're working in now.

Good luck and get well!!!

2024-12-24 19:35:40 UTC

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

UGH! Girl, you have my sympathy, and I hope you have a bunch
of OTC meds there to help knock this out. Just vegetate the
next two days.

Maybe she could get a gig as a "professional nag", lol...

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2024-12-24 21:21:28 UTC

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

UGH! Girl, you have my sympathy, and I hope you have a bunch
of OTC meds there to help knock this out. Just vegetate the
next two days.

I still think it would be quite an adventure to try and buy the company
from the owner. Imagine... CEO Jill.. or perhaps the CFO becomes the CEO
and Jill the CFO?

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 13:46:04 UTC

UGH! Girl, you have my sympathy, and I hope you have a bunch
of OTC meds there to help knock this out. Just vegetate the
next two days.

Thank you! I still feel awful. Poor Cleo doesn't know what to make of
the sudden explosive sneezing. Or the fact that I don't really feel
like playing. I'll be asking the other people in the building.

Jill

Randy

2024-12-24 19:55:00 UTC

Might have caught it from not wearing any panties in order
to get better grip on that broom.

https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Dave Smith

2024-12-24 20:39:31 UTC

Post by Randy
Might have caught it from not wearing any panties in order
to get better grip on that broom.

Are you speaking from experience? Did you catch a cold when you took
your panties off?

Randy

2024-12-24 20:49:56 UTC

Post by Randy
Might have caught it from not wearing any panties in order
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Are you speaking from experience? Did you catch a cold when you took
your panties off?

No, but I don't have the broom. Did you have a heart attack
when your son took off his?

Dave Smith

2024-12-24 22:44:02 UTC

Post by Randy

Post by Randy
Might have caught it from not wearing any panties in order
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Are you speaking from experience? Did you catch a cold when you took
your panties off?

No, but I don't have the broom.

You lost it up your ass?

Randy

2024-12-25 03:57:14 UTC

Post by Randy
Might have caught it from not wearing any panties in order
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Are you speaking from experience? Did you catch a cold when you took
your panties off?

No, but I don't have the broom. Did you have another heart attack
when your son took off his?

I fuck him in the ass.

You're as sick as that Jill cunt, fat Dave.

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 13:51:58 UTC

Post by Randy
Might have caught it from not wearing any panties in order
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Are you speaking from experience? Did you catch a cold when you took
your panties off?

No, but I don't have the broom.

You lost it up your ass?

Dave, please don't feed the troll.

Jill

Dave Smith

2024-12-25 19:31:29 UTC

Post by Randy
No, but I don't have the broom.

You lost it up your ass?

Dave, please don't feed the troll.

Don't worry Jill. It's interesting to give them a little line once in a
while to see how many chime in and confirm their trolling before they
get filtered. Then we will see what user names pop in out of nowhere.
Same shit heads using different names.

Bruce

2024-12-25 19:53:45 UTC

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:31:29 -0500, Dave Smith

Post by Randy
No, but I don't have the broom.

You lost it up your ass?

Dave, please don't feed the troll.

Yes, very interesting. I can't wait.

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Hank Rogers

2024-12-24 21:55:18 UTC

Might have caught it from not wearing any panties inorder
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Fair enough, but you need to upgrade that photo-shopped image of her
royal Majesty. Perhaps if you added some large hairy warts on her nose
and chin ...

BryanGSimmons

2024-12-25 19:48:04 UTC

Might have caught it from not wearing any panties inorder
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Fair enough, but you need to upgrade that photo-shopped image of her
royal Majesty. Perhaps if you added some large hairy warts on her nose
and chin ...

She was in her forties in that pic from the old mugshot page. A new
mugshot page with recent pix could be quite disturbing.

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tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
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Hank Rogers

2024-12-25 21:28:51 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using lots
of "kleenex" tissues.Â Frequent washing of hands and spraying Lysol
around.Â I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I had no
appetite.Â I took an antihistamine when I got home but it did not
help.
Jill

Might have caught it from not wearing any panties inorder
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Fair enough, but you need to upgrade that photo-shopped image of her
royal Majesty. Perhaps if you added some large hairy warts on her nose
and chin ...

She was in her forties in that pic from the old mugshot page. A new
mugshot page with recent pix could be quite disturbing.

Her Majesty likely prefers the antique picture.

BryanGSimmons

2024-12-25 22:06:36 UTC

Might have caught it from not wearing any panties inorder
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Fair enough, but you need to upgrade that photo-shopped image of her
royal Majesty. Perhaps if you added some large hairy warts on her
nose and chin ...

She was in her forties in that pic from the old mugshot page. A new
mugshot page with recent pix could be quite disturbing.

Her Majesty likely prefers the antique picture.

Or the one from the '70s.

Hank Rogers

2024-12-26 00:17:07 UTC

Post by BryanGSimmons

Might have caught it from not wearing any panties inorder
to get better grip on that broom.
https://postimg.cc/s1kSCG6C

Fair enough, but you need to upgrade that photo-shopped image of her
royal Majesty. Perhaps if you added some large hairy warts on her
nose and chin ...

She was in her forties in that pic from the old mugshot page. A new
mugshot page with recent pix could be quite disturbing.

Her Majesty likely prefers the antique picture.

Or the one from the '70s.

Is that the one old kuth used to whack off with?

2024-12-24 21:13:42 UTC

I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using lots of
"kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying Lysol around. I
forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I had no appetite. I took
an antihistamine when I got home but it did not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever so I
hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last night. My
poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She wanted to play
but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the "TV room" and I
tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one I've had
in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a sinus pressure
headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll be
better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who owns
the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6 months. He
finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are the
Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables and
receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in South
Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

I'm sorry to hear that Jill. =( I hope you feel better soon, and when it
comes to the job, as long as we are all optimistic, sooner or later all
will be well!

Maybe it would be possible for the employees to come together and buy the
company from the owner? No one knows your customers as well as you
employees, and if it's between him just closing down, or selling it at a
low price to the employees, a few dollars should be better than no dollars
at all. So call your colleagues and maybe you can negotiate a deal? =)

Hank Rogers

2024-12-24 21:58:58 UTC

Post by D

Post by Jill McQuown
I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using
lots of "kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying
Lysol around. I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I
had no appetite. I took an antihistamine when I got home but it did
not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever
so I hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last
night. My poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She
wanted to play but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the
"TV room" and I tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to
sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one
I've had in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a
sinus pressure headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll
be better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who
owns the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6
months. He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are
the Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables
and receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in
South Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

I'm sorry to hear that Jill. =( I hope you feel better soon, and when it
comes to the job, as long as we are all optimistic, sooner or later all
will be well!
Maybe it would be possible for the employees to come together and buy
the company from the owner? No one knows your customers as well as you
employees, and if it's between him just closing down, or selling it at a
low price to the employees, a few dollars should be better than no
dollars at all. So call your colleagues and maybe you can negotiate a
deal? =)

Sounds like a possibly good plan. On the other hand, the employees could
be the reason the company is dying. Wouldn't be the first time it has
happened.

2024-12-25 11:46:15 UTC

Post by D

I spent much of the day at the office yesterday sneezing and using lots of
"kleenex" tissues. Frequent washing of hands and spraying Lysol around.
I forced myself to eat lunch yesterday even though I had no appetite. I
took an antihistamine when I got home but it did not help.
Last night was not at all hungry, either. I was running a mild fever so I
hunkered down on the couch before dragging myself off to bed last night.
My poor little cat, Cleo, didn't know what to make of it. She wanted to
play but I felt like crud. She did carry some toys into the "TV room" and
I tossed them around for her but I really just wanted to sleep.
The symptoms continue today. It's a full-on Winter cold; first one I've
had in decades. Lots of sneezing, sore nose and I woke up with a sinus
pressure headache.
The office is closed today and tomorrow for Christmas. Hopefully I'll be
better when I go back to work on Thursday.
Got some bad news yesterday. Oh, it was not unexpected. The man who owns
the company I work for has been talking about this for the last 6 months.
He finally decided to shut down the company early next year.
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are the
Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables and
receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in South
Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.
Merry F'ing Christmas and Happy New Year!
Jill

I'm sorry to hear that Jill. =( I hope you feel better soon, and when it
comes to the job, as long as we are all optimistic, sooner or later all
will be well!
Maybe it would be possible for the employees to come together and buy the
company from the owner? No one knows your customers as well as you
employees, and if it's between him just closing down, or selling it at a
low price to the employees, a few dollars should be better than no dollars
at all. So call your colleagues and maybe you can negotiate a deal? =)

Sounds like a possibly good plan. On the other hand, the employees could be
the reason the company is dying. Wouldn't be the first time it has happened.

This is the truth! Let's wait and see if we get more information.

Leonard Blaisdell

2024-12-25 03:26:33 UTC

Post by Jill McQuown
My manager, the CFO, and I will be among the last to go since we are the
Finance department. Got to resolve all the outstanding payables and
receivables even after all the other employees (who are not in South
Carolina) are gone. I'll be looking for another job next year.

That's very depressing news. I'm so sorry. First, get well soon. My
daughter is very sick with similar symptoms now. Hopefully, she has
turned the corner, and so have you.
The job situation will resolve itself, one way or another. Just get
well and be well. Again, so sorry.

leo

Jill McQuown

2024-12-25 13:49:44 UTC

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Thank you, Leo. I'm still not well. The last time I had a cold like
this (as best I can remember) it took about a week to get over.
Hopefully your daughter gets over hers quickly!

Jill

Carol

2024-12-26 02:50:21 UTC