Bacon bits

[BryanGSimmons]

Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6

Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan. Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

[Jim]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way more
calories from fat.

[Ed P]

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

 >
You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way more
calories from fat.

Would be much better with fresh or frozen beans over canned. Better
texture too.

[Jim]

Post by Ed P

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of
black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

 >
You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

 >
24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way
more calories from fat.

Would be much better with fresh or frozen beans over canned. Better
texture too.

Good point.

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by Ed P

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of
black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

 >
You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

 >
24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way
more calories from fat.

Would be much better with fresh or frozen beans over canned. Better
texture too.

I cook the fresh and frozen ones Southern style anyway, so they are
anything but *al dente*. I don't like green beans or carrots not cooked
buttery tender. What you'd probably call perfect, I'd call half raw.
My wife eats them totally raw.

[Jill McQuown]

Post by Ed P

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of
black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

 >
You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

 >
24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way
more calories from fat.

Would be much better with fresh or frozen beans over canned. Better
texture too.

True, Ed, but all that bacon fat isn't healthy. And it's certainly not
easier to cut bacon into "uniform shape" before frying and rather than
crumbling it after it's cooked.

Jill

[Jim]

Post by Jill McQuown
True, Ed, but all that bacon fat isn't healthy.
Jill

That depends on who you listen to.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Ed P

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of
black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

 >
You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

 >
24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way
more calories from fat.

Would be much better with fresh or frozen beans over canned. Better
texture too.

True, Ed, but all that bacon fat isn't healthy.  And it's certainly not
easier to cut bacon into "uniform shape" before frying and rather than
crumbling it after it's cooked.
Jill

He's not as old as your Majesty, but he will probably be more concerned
as his age advances in the future. Still it's good that your Highness is
looking out for him. It shows true compassion.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Jill McQuown
True, Ed, but all that bacon fat isn't healthy. And it's certainly not
easier to cut bacon into "uniform shape" before frying and rather than
crumbling it after it's cooked.

Maybe. Different people find different things more and less difficult.

[Jim]

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by Jim

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

 >
You must love green beans, nothing wrong with that but
isn't three cans something like 27 carbs or so?

24 I think, but they are very, very low glycemic, and there are way more
calories from fat.

Ok, one has to be careful with what some call Keto, is your
daily goal less that 50?

Not trying to sound like an expert but I lost around 50 pounds
following the keto diet and got down to my target weight, staying
under 20 carbs/day. Now I try to stay under 50 to maintain my current
weight of 205 pounds.

I was bordeline per-diabetic before going on keto, and now thankfully
my A1C reads normal, so it helps in more ways than one.

Good luck with it.

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan. Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

Well, I can't say I've had trouble with bacon being any
more done if I cut it up before or after it's been cooked.
As far as it being 'uniform' in size, that's not been a
problem for me either.

Anyone else struggling with their bacon besides Bryan?

[Dave Smith]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

Well, I can't say I've had trouble with bacon being any
more done if I cut it up before or after it's been cooked.
As far as it being 'uniform' in size, that's not been a
problem for me either.
Anyone else struggling with their bacon besides Bryan?

I often find bacon cooks a little faster or slower depending on its
location in the pan and which part of strip it is. I get bacon from the
butcher counter and it tends to dome in longer strips and wider at the
fattier end than the packaged bacon. That also varies with the pan and
the heat level. I like to cook bacon on a medium high burner to render
off more of the fat and to crisp it up a bit.

If I am doing just a couple strips for myself I usually cut them in half
and cook them in a smaller pan. That leaves enough fat to fry a couple
eggs in. Those wider fattier pieces do need a little more time. I can
remove the smaller pieces a minute or two earlier. I don't consider that
a struggle.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Dave Smith
I like to cook bacon on a medium high burner to render
off more of the fat and to crisp it up a bit.

I find a low heat works better to render the fat before the bacon
burns.

[D]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan. Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

Well, I can't say I've had trouble with bacon being any
more done if I cut it up before or after it's been cooked.
As far as it being 'uniform' in size, that's not been a
problem for me either.
Anyone else struggling with their bacon besides Bryan?

Not really. I fry it a minute or two on each side to the desired level if
crispiness, put on some paper towels, then eat. Easy!

[Jill McQuown]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

Well, I can't say I've had trouble with bacon being any
more done if I cut it up before or after it's been cooked.
As far as it being 'uniform' in size, that's not been a
problem for me either.
Anyone else struggling with their bacon besides Bryan?

Nope. Taking time to cut bacon into uniform shapes (and dirtying a
knife in the process) before frying it doesn't make much sense. How is
that easier than crumbling cooked bacon strips? As for adding pepper,
does he not know you can buy peppered bacon? My only comment on the
Keto diet thing is this: All that fat sounds like a heart attack
waiting to happen. And canned French cut green beans reheated in bacon
fat... what? Yeah, he's a master chef. ;)

Jill

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

Well, I can't say I've had trouble with bacon being any
more done if I cut it up before or after it's been cooked.
As far as it being 'uniform' in size, that's not been a
problem for me either.
Anyone else struggling with their bacon besides Bryan?

Nope. Taking time to cut bacon into uniform shapes (and dirtying a
knife in the process)

Oh, my stars. Dirtying a knife. It's the work of a moment to swab
it off with a little dish soap.

Post by Jill McQuown
before frying it doesn't make much sense. How is
that easier than crumbling cooked bacon strips?

Perhaps the bacon isn't cooked until crisp.

I find it's easier to cut up the bacon first. You can stir it around
in the pan, rather than flipping individual strips. I pretty rarely
want crumbled bacon, though.

Post by Jill McQuown
As for adding pepper,
does he not know you can buy peppered bacon?

Perhaps he doesn't always want peppered bacon.

[Michael Trew]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

Either way, fresh cut green beans fried up with bacon grease sounds
delicious next to my potatoes at supper, but brown some fresh diced
garlic with it.

[Jim]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.
Either way, fresh cut green beans fried up with bacon grease sounds
delicious next to my potatoes at supper, but brown some fresh diced
garlic with it.

It works, but like any diet it takes commitment. My Triglycerides
and Cholesterol looks better now than they did before going on the
keto diet. I get my blood checked twice a year since I was diagnosed
as borderline diabetic.

[D]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease can't be
healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever weight lost as
soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life, apparently. It's a lot
easier to cut calories and lose weight.
Either way, fresh cut green beans fried up with bacon grease sounds delicious
next to my potatoes at supper, but brown some fresh diced garlic with it.

You need look no further than to Jordan Peterson! He is health and
rationality himself, and eats only meat! If you do it, you could become
just like him! =)

[Carol]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of

black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

Yes and if you also follow the keto diet right, it's low0cal. Hummm,
since it's well known if you eat less calories than you expend, you
lose weight... Keto, to me is just a shell game with what type of
calories you eat.

Either way, fresh cut green beans fried up with bacon grease sounds
delicious next to my potatoes at supper, but brown some fresh diced
garlic with it.

Agreed, but if I had no fresh green beans or frozen, I can work with
canned as I was used to them in childhood. I just would'nt waste bacon
grease on'em.

[Jim]

Post by Carol
Yes and if you also follow the keto diet right, it's low0cal.

Wrong. But I'm sure you will continue to exhibit your expertise
on it below.

Post by Carol

Post by Carol
Keto, to me is just a shell game with what type of

calories you eat.

The keto diet really doesn't count calories, it's
mostly about the carbs, and carbs are mostly sugars
of some sort, so hence one ends up consuming less
calories without counting them, within loose limits.

You can be really annoying when you talk out your ass
about things you know next to nothing about, as you're
known to do.

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by Carol

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of

black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

Yes and if you also follow the keto diet right, it's low0cal. Hummm,
since it's well known if you eat less calories than you expend, you
lose weight... Keto, to me is just a shell game with what type of
calories you eat.

I lost 30 pounds in about 4 months eating that for breakfast most days.

Post by Carol

Either way, fresh cut green beans fried up with bacon grease sounds
delicious next to my potatoes at supper, but brown some fresh diced
garlic with it.

Agreed, but if I had no fresh green beans or frozen, I can work with
canned as I was used to them in childhood. I just would'nt waste bacon
grease on'em.

Most folks toss bacon grease after they fry the bacon.

[Dave Smith]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

I know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat. No
bread, no vegetables, no fruit. Apparently his father is doing the same
diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives about a mile
down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and suppers. The
parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run into his wife I
ask if his teeth have started falling out yet. It's ironic because she
is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and eats only organic foods.

Either way, fresh cut green beans fried up with bacon grease sounds
delicious next to my potatoes at supper, but brown some fresh diced
garlic with it.

[Carol]

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of

black and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add
three cans of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and
grease can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain
whatever weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is
for life, apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose
weight.

I know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat.
No bread, no vegetables, no fruit. Apparently his father is doing
the same diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives
about a mile down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and
suppers. The parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run
into his wife I ask if his teeth have started falling out yet. It's
ironic because she is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and
eats only organic foods.

Scurvey time there.

[Jim]

Post by Carol
Scurvey time there.

It appears you're lacking vitamin see.

[clams casino]

Post by Jim

Post by Carol
Scurvey time there.

It appears you're lacking vitamin see.

Lime away...

[Jim]

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Post by Jim

Post by Carol
Scurvey time there.

It appears you're lacking vitamin see.

Lime away...

With the Tequila.

[clams casino]

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Post by Jim

Post by Carol
Scurvey time there.

It appears you're lacking vitamin see.

Lime away...

With the Tequila.

...and hold the coconut...

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

I know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat. No
bread, no vegetables, no fruit. Apparently his father is doing the same
diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives about a mile
down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and suppers. The
parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run into his wife I
ask if his teeth have started falling out yet. It's ironic because she
is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and eats only organic foods.

Ask him to let you know when the scurvy kicks in.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Dave Smith

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

I know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat. No
bread, no vegetables, no fruit. Apparently his father is doing the same
diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives about a mile
down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and suppers. The
parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run into his wife I
ask if his teeth have started falling out yet. It's ironic because she
is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and eats only organic foods.

Ask him to let you know when the scurvy kicks in.

Dave will likely arrest the man long before that happens.

[gm]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Dave Smith

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

I know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat. No
bread, no vegetables, no fruit. Apparently his father is doing the same
diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives about a mile
down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and suppers. The
parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run into his wife I
ask if his teeth have started falling out yet. It's ironic because she
is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and eats only organic foods.

Ask him to let you know when the scurvy kicks in.

Dave will likely arrest the man long before that happens.

"I know a guy" will be engraved upon Offiser Dave's tombstone...

--
GM

--

[Hank Rogers]

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three
cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and
grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

I  know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat. No
bread, no vegetables, no fruit.  Apparently his father is doing the
same
diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives about a mile
down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and suppers. The
parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run into his wife I
ask if his teeth have started falling out yet.  It's ironic because she
is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and eats only organic foods.

Ask him to let you know when the scurvy kicks in.

Dave will likely arrest the man long before that happens.

"I know a guy" will be engraved upon Offiser Dave's tombstone...
--
GM
--

He has more "friends" than the combined population of canada and the US.

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Dave Smith

Post by BryanGSimmons
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

I know a guy who is on a carnivore diet. He eats nothing but meat. No
bread, no vegetables, no fruit. Apparently his father is doing the same
diet. The parents own the farm behind us and the son lives about a mile
down the road. He goes to the farm for breakfasts and suppers. The
parents shop at Costco and by tons of meat. When I run into his wife I
ask if his teeth have started falling out yet. It's ironic because she
is a cancer survivor, eats very little meat and eats only organic foods.

Ask him to let you know when the scurvy kicks in.

I would assume he takes mutivitamins.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.

Michael, "keto" is just a buzzword to hype a low carbohydrate diet. It's
basically same shit as the "Atkins" diet before that old con man died.
Before Atkins sang it's praise, it was known as "The Air Force diet".
The latter fad diet was said to be the result of a fat ass air force
sergeant's attempt to loose weight to avoid being kicked out of the
service. There was probably other low carb cults earlier in history.

Low carb diets DO work, and you can shed a lot of lard fairly quickly.
But when you stop it, you'll start slowly gaining back to your normal
weight, as with any weight loss program (other than surgical alteration
of the digestive organs).

It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

[Jim]

Post by Hank Rogers
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

Show me a diet that is magical and doesn't require medication.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Jim

Post by Hank Rogers
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

Show me a diet that is magical and doesn't require medication.

There are very very many which are sold these days. Quite a few proclaim
magical results.

Turn on a TV, and within an hour you'll see a good many of them.

[Jim]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Jim

Post by Hank Rogers
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

 >
Show me a diet that is magical and doesn't require medication.

There are very very many which are sold these days. Quite a few proclaim
magical results.
Turn on a TV, and within an hour you'll see a good many of them.

Nice dodge of my question. Do you also send your money
to the Televangelists?

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Jim

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Jim

Post by Hank Rogers
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is
thrown into any new hype.

 >
Show me a diet that is magical and doesn't require medication.

There are very very many which are sold these days. Quite a few
proclaim magical results.
Turn on a TV, and within an hour you'll see a good many of them.

Nice dodge of my question. Do you also send your money
to the Televangelists?

I send every bit of money I can spare to donald trump. He needs it much
more.

[gm]

Post by Hank Rogers
I send every bit of money I can spare to donald trump. He needs it much
more.

FOX NOOZE:

President-elect Donald Trump receives the 'Patriot of the Year' award at
Fox Nation's Patriot Awards

The incoming president was honored alongside other heroes at the sixth
annual Fox Nation Patriot Awards

"President-elect Donald Trump accepted the "Patriot of the Year" award
Thursday night at Fox Nation's sixth annual Patriot Awards...

"We're going to get things straightened out in this country," Trump
said, accepting the honorary award...

Trump's year has been marked by a series of legal battles, two
assassination attempts and a historic campaign that resulted in his
victory in the 2024 presidential election against Vice President Kamala
Harris...

"We had just a spectacular election. They were thinking it was going to
be close, and it wasn't close," he said...

During his remarks, Trump also reiterated his campaign commitment to
addressing immigration, the economy and national security...

"We're going to achieve it again and very fasaid..It's going to be very
fast because we have no choice. But we're going to do something that
I've been talking about for eight years. We're going to do it again. We
have to do it again. We're going to make America great again."...

😎

--
GM

--

[gm]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.

Michael, "keto" is just a buzzword to hype a low carbohydrate diet. It's
basically same shit as the "Atkins" diet before that old con man died.
Before Atkins sang it's praise, it was known as "The Air Force diet".
The latter fad diet was said to be the result of a fat ass air force
sergeant's attempt to loose weight to avoid being kicked out of the
service. There was probably other low carb cults earlier in history.
Low carb diets DO work, and you can shed a lot of lard fairly quickly.
But when you stop it, you'll start slowly gaining back to your normal
weight, as with any weight loss program (other than surgical alteration
of the digestive organs).
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

Remember the " Beverly Hills Diet " from the early 80's...???

--
GM

--

[clams casino]

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.

Michael, "keto" is just a buzzword to hype a low carbohydrate diet. It's
basically same shit as the "Atkins" diet before that old con man died.
Before Atkins sang it's praise, it was known as "The Air Force diet".
The latter fad diet was said to be the result of a fat ass air force
sergeant's attempt to loose weight to avoid being kicked out of the
service. There was probably other low carb cults earlier in history.
Low carb diets DO work, and you can shed a lot of lard fairly quickly.
But when you stop it, you'll start slowly gaining back to your normal
weight, as with any weight loss program (other than surgical alteration
of the digestive organs).
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

Remember the " Beverly Hills Diet " from the early 80's...???
--
GM
--

Remember Euell Gibbons?

[Jim]

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

[Leonard Blaisdell]

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

[gm]

Post by Leonard Blaisdell
Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Did Fixx or Euell ever "mix it up" with James Randi, I wonder..???

--
GM

--

[Jim]

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Cheers! Them damn pine cones can't be easy to pass. ;)

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Jim

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Cheers! Them damn pine cones can't be easy to pass. ;)

Like a bird dog shitting peach seeds.

[Jim]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Jim

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Cheers! Them damn pine cones can't be easy to pass. ;)

Like a bird dog shitting peach seeds.

Or a bluetick after a coon.

[Ed P]

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Death. Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64, at Sunbury Community
Hospital in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, of a ruptured aortic aneurysm

[Mike Duffy]

Post by clams casino
Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64,
[...] of a ruptured aortic aneurysm.

Actor John Ritter as well. It is hard to avoid
if you have been been identified as being born
with a weak aorta.

I seem to recall that it was one of Steve W's
worries. The only recourse is surgery which
itself is extrememly risky to fail similarly.

It was what prevented him from driving, as
each month has a mortality rate on the order
of a percent or so.

[Bruce]

Post by Mike Duffy

Post by clams casino
Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64,
[...] of a ruptured aortic aneurysm.

Actor John Ritter as well. It is hard to avoid
if you have been been identified as being born
with a weak aorta.

Especially because that diagnosis often comes after your death.

[Jill McQuown]

Post by Ed P

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Death. Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64, at Sunbury Community
Hospital in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, of a ruptured aortic aneurysm

Yeah, he was all about "natural food" and a promoter of Grape Nuts
cereal. "Ever eat a pine tree?"

"Tastes like wild hickory nuts." Didn't do him much good.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 17:15:04 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by Ed P

Post by Leonard Blaisdell
Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Death. Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64, at Sunbury Community
Hospital in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, of a ruptured aortic aneurysm

Yeah, he was all about "natural food" and a promoter of Grape Nuts
cereal. "Ever eat a pine tree?"
http://youtu.be/t0N290zPrbA
"Tastes like wild hickory nuts." Didn't do him much good.

Maybe he would have died ten years younger if he'd eaten copious
amounts of xanthan gum and foam suppressant.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by Ed P

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Death. Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64, at Sunbury Community
Hospital in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, of a ruptured aortic aneurysm

Yeah, he was all about "natural food" and a promoter of Grape Nuts
cereal. "Ever eat a pine tree?"
http://youtu.be/t0N290zPrbA
"Tastes like wild hickory nuts." Didn't do him much good.

Aortic aneurysms can be unrelated to diet or exercise. Sometimes
people are just born with a weak spot in their aorta.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by Ed P

Post by Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Let's not forget Jim Fixx! I was never much of a fad chaser. He and
Euell solidified my skepticism transition to cynicism. I owe them both a
lot. I'm much better now. ;)

Death. Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64, at Sunbury Community
Hospital in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, of a ruptured aortic aneurysm

Yeah, he was all about "natural food" and a promoter of Grape Nuts
cereal. "Ever eat a pine tree?"
http://youtu.be/t0N290zPrbA
"Tastes like wild hickory nuts." Didn't do him much good.

Aortic aneurysms can be unrelated to diet or exercise. Sometimes
people are just born with a weak spot in their aorta.

Same with any large arterial vessel. Seemingly healthy young people can
have strokes suddenly. cardio-vascular accidents, etc.

[clams casino]

Seemingly healthy young people can have strokes suddenly.
cardio-vascular accidents, etc.

Covid vax legacy.

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Post by Jim

Post by clams casino
Remember Euell Gibbons?

Yes, Mr eat only natural things..died at a fairly young age, right?

Aye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euell_Gibbons

Gibbons died on December 29, 1975, aged 64, at Sunbury Community
Hospital in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, of a ruptured aortic aneurysm.

No Jim Fixx for him!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx

Fixx died on July 20, 1984, at age 52 of a heart attack, during his
daily run on Vermont Route 15 in Hardwick. The autopsy, conducted by
Vermont's chief medical examiner, Eleanor McQuillen, revealed that
atherosclerosis had blocked one coronary artery 95%, a second 85%, and a
third 70%

[Hank Rogers]

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.

Michael, "keto" is just a buzzword to hype a low carbohydrate diet. It's
basically same shit as the "Atkins" diet before that old con man died.
Before Atkins sang it's praise, it was known as "The Air Force diet".
The latter fad diet was said to be the result of a fat ass air force
sergeant's attempt to loose weight to avoid being kicked out of the
service. There was probably other low carb cults earlier in history.
Low carb diets DO work, and you can shed a lot of lard fairly quickly.
But when you stop it, you'll start slowly gaining back to your normal
weight, as with any weight loss program (other than surgical alteration
of the digestive organs).
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

Remember the " Beverly Hills Diet " from the early 80's...???
--
GM
--

And the "South Beach diet". Everybody and his brother has a goddamned
magic diet. The only thing that works is to throttle back on the chow.
And that takes more will power than many people have.

[D]

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling
cooked bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans
of French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.

Michael, "keto" is just a buzzword to hype a low carbohydrate diet. It's
basically same shit as the "Atkins" diet before that old con man died.
Before Atkins sang it's praise, it was known as "The Air Force diet".
The latter fad diet was said to be the result of a fat ass air force
sergeant's attempt to loose weight to avoid being kicked out of the
service. There was probably other low carb cults earlier in history.
Low carb diets DO work, and you can shed a lot of lard fairly quickly.
But when you stop it, you'll start slowly gaining back to your normal
weight, as with any weight loss program (other than surgical alteration
of the digestive organs).
It's not magical, no matter how much zen shit and mysticism is thrown
into any new hype.

Remember the " Beverly Hills Diet " from the early 80's...???
--
GM
--

And the "South Beach diet". Everybody and his brother has a goddamned magic
diet. The only thing that works is to throttle back on the chow. And that
takes more will power than many people have.

Incorrect! The magic cure is called gypsy tears! According to a romanian
woman I met the other day, that is the secret behind six pack abs!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge. White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.

And don't go nuts with fat. Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:42:14 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge. White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.
And don't go nuts with fat. Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

You just broke Joan's heart.

[clams casino]

Post by Bruce
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:42:14 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge. White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.
And don't go nuts with fat. Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

You just broke Joan's heart.

Ironically, as is true with the native French, butter didn't do that.

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by clams casino

Post by Bruce
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:42:14 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge.  White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.
And don't go nuts with fat.  Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

You just broke Joan's heart.

Ironically, as is true with the native French, butter didn't do that.

Butter isn't the next best thing to sex. Dark sweet cherries are, but
butter is up there. I made my wife a melty cheese yesterday, and she
wanted another one today. Lots of butter and full fat cheese involved.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/W1bGSyDQwzLSVtbn9

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Post by clams casino

Post by Bruce
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:42:14 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto.  All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy.  Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently.  It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge.  White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.
And don't go nuts with fat.  Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

You just broke Joan's heart.

Ironically, as is true with the native French, butter didn't do that.

Butter isn't the next best thing to sex.  Dark sweet cherries are, but
butter is up there.  I made my wife a melty cheese yesterday, and she
wanted another one today.  Lots of butter and full fat cheese involved.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/W1bGSyDQwzLSVtbn9

+1 for the jigsaw cheese arrangement!

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by clams casino

Butter isn't the next best thing to sex.  Dark sweet cherries are, but
butter is up there.  I made my wife a melty cheese yesterday, and she
wanted another one today.  Lots of butter and full fat cheese involved.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/W1bGSyDQwzLSVtbn9

+1 for the jigsaw cheese arrangement!

My first thought was "Jigsaw puzzle cheese."

[clams casino]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by clams casino

 >
Butter isn't the next best thing to sex.  Dark sweet cherries are, but
butter is up there.  I made my wife a melty cheese yesterday, and she
wanted another one today.  Lots of butter and full fat cheese involved.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/W1bGSyDQwzLSVtbn9

+1 for the jigsaw cheese arrangement!

My first thought was "Jigsaw puzzle cheese."

Bryan has been stepping his game up...he's getting better...

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Michael Trew

Post by BryanGSimmons
Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
bacon, and makes for far more uniform shape and doneness.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWiQvApVkGKGigCg6
Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
and/or white pepper, and all grease left in the pan.  Add three cans of
French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge. White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.
And don't go nuts with fat. Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

A shot glass of olive oil is healthful. And since you mentioned nuts, I
grabbed a small serving of slivered almonds. Oh, and behind the almonds
was an old bottle of MCT oil that I had looked for earlier, and couldn't
find, so I took about 2 teaspoons of that too.

[Michael Trew]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Michael Trew
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

The easiest way to cut calories is to forego simple carbohydrates.
You don't need them, and often they're just a grease sponge. White
bread, white pasta (anything made from white flour), potatoes, white
rice, crackers like saltines, sweets, fruit juice.
And don't go nuts with fat. Eating a stick of butter might be
low carb, but it's not good for anybody.

Some of it has to do with genetics, but in the end, it comes down to
calories ingested/burned. I didn't set out to lose weight, but quitting
fast food and processed crap food does wonders. Never sweetened drinks.
A little over a year ago I set out to cut out unhealthy crap, my main
goal saving money, like always, heh. Since then, not having time to
cook for myself, and hardly eating for a while, I'm down to ~160 pounds
now. Greasy crap just upsets my stomach now. I was hungry for a while,
but got used to it.

I tried Chinese buffet again last month, but when you aren't used to
that food, it's just awful. I could barely stomach a plate and a half,
and I felt sick the rest of the day. My appetite is far less than it
used to be, but I can still eat whatever I want, when I want, unlike
Keto. Breakfast this morning was a skillet of home fries with olive oil
(although it's usually butter). I love my carbs, yum!

[Bruce]

Post by Michael Trew
Some of it has to do with genetics, but in the end, it comes down to
calories ingested/burned. I didn't set out to lose weight, but quitting
fast food and processed crap food does wonders. Never sweetened drinks.
A little over a year ago I set out to cut out unhealthy crap, my main
goal saving money, like always, heh. Since then, not having time to
cook for myself, and hardly eating for a while, I'm down to ~160 pounds
now. Greasy crap just upsets my stomach now. I was hungry for a while,
but got used to it.
I tried Chinese buffet again last month, but when you aren't used to
that food, it's just awful. I could barely stomach a plate and a half,
and I felt sick the rest of the day. My appetite is far less than it
used to be, but I can still eat whatever I want, when I want, unlike
Keto. Breakfast this morning was a skillet of home fries with olive oil
(although it's usually butter). I love my carbs, yum!

Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

[Jim]

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Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

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Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

[Jim]

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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

 >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

He can be a clueless blowhard at times.

[Bruce]

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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

 >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

[Jim]

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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

 >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

You fucked up the attribution, dipshit. You troll
this group all day, everyday, you clueless hypocrite.

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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

  >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

You fucked up the attribution, dipshit. You troll
this group all day, everyday, you clueless hypocrite.

At least he's not down at Comet Pizza with Barry...

[Bruce]

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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

 >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

You fucked up the attribution, dipshit. You troll
this group all day, everyday, you clueless hypocrite.

I didn't realise I'd pressed a button, but I clearly did. The
infantile name calling gives it away.

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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

 >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

Little books?

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Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

  >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

Little books?
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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

  >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

I've read more books than you trolls have read porn magazines.

Little books?
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Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

 >
People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

He's just not so well-read.

He can be a clueless blowhard at times.

Many times, most times even, which is a sad persona to fill out.

[Bruce]

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

You can still stuff yourself, just not with carbs, dummy.

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Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

You can still stuff yourself, just not with carbs, dummy.

You misspelled _transitional sugars_, dummy.

[Jim]

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

You can still stuff yourself, just not with carbs, dummy.

You can't stuff yourself on any diet if you're object
is to lose weight.

You talk out your ass about things you know nothing
about, much like Carol, idiot.

[Bruce]

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

You can still stuff yourself, just not with carbs, dummy.

You can't stuff yourself on any diet if you're object
is to lose weight.
You talk out your ass about things you know nothing
about, much like Carol, idiot.

"The keto (ketogenic) diet is defined by its focus on drastically
reducing carbohydrate intake and replacing it with fat, which shifts
the body into a metabolic state called ketosis."

You must have a personal experience with losing weight while still
eating like a starving hippo, [insert insult].

[Jim]

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

People on the keto diet do in fact eat much less, dimmy.

You can still stuff yourself, just not with carbs, dummy.

You can't stuff yourself on any diet if you're object
is to lose weight.
You talk out your ass about things you know nothing
about, much like Carol, idiot.

"The keto (ketogenic) diet is defined by its focus on drastically
reducing carbohydrate intake and replacing it with fat, which shifts
the body into a metabolic state called ketosis."

So your google works, you must be so proud.
I missed where it says it's only for people that 'don't have
the self control to simply eat less', like you k-lame.

Post by Bruce
You must have a personal experience with losing weight

I explained I've lost about 50 pounds on keto, I'm
down to my target weight of 205, I'm 6 feet tall.

Post by Bruce
while still eating like a starving hippo,

There you go again, talking out your ass.
[insert insult].
https://tinyurl.com/5n7p8t7n

[Bruce]

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
"The keto (ketogenic) diet is defined by its focus on drastically
reducing carbohydrate intake and replacing it with fat, which shifts
the body into a metabolic state called ketosis."

So your google works, you must be so proud.
I missed where it says it's only for people that 'don't have
the self control to simply eat less', like you k-lame.

The most logical way to lose weight is to eat less. Many people can't
do that. I don't blame or ridicule them for it. Lots of people eat or
drink or smoke or gamble or watch soaps too much. For overeaters, keto
may be a solution, because they can continue to overeat.

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
You must have a personal experience with losing weight

I explained I've lost about 50 pounds on keto, I'm
down to my target weight of 205, I'm 6 feet tall.

I weigh 181 at 6'ft2". No keto.

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
while still eating like a starving hippo,

There you go again, talking out your ass.
[insert insult].
https://tinyurl.com/5n7p8t7n

You take it too personally. Maybe you ate very reasonable amounts and
were still overweight due to a medical condition. That's none of my
business and I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking in
general.

[Jim]

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
"The keto (ketogenic) diet is defined by its focus on drastically
reducing carbohydrate intake and replacing it with fat, which shifts
the body into a metabolic state called ketosis."

So your google works, you must be so proud.
I missed where it says it's only for people that 'don't have
the self control to simply eat less', like you k-lame.

The most logical way to lose weight is to eat less. Many people can't
do that. I don't blame or ridicule them for it. Lots of people eat or
drink or smoke or gamble or watch soaps too much. For overeaters, keto
may be a solution, because they can continue to overeat.

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
You must have a personal experience with losing weight

I explained I've lost about 50 pounds on keto, I'm
down to my target weight of 205, I'm 6 feet tall.

I weigh 181 at 6'ft2". No keto.

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
while still eating like a starving hippo,

There you go again, talking out your ass.
[insert insult].
https://tinyurl.com/5n7p8t7n

You take it too personally. Maybe you ate very reasonable amounts and
were still overweight due to a medical condition. That's none of my
business and I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking in
general.

You were talking in general about something you know
next to nothing about when you wrote " keto is for people
that don't have the self control to simply eat less" and
I called you on your error, it has nothing to do with
me when you make a stupid generalization like that.

[Bruce]

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
You take it too personally. Maybe you ate very reasonable amounts and
were still overweight due to a medical condition. That's none of my
business and I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking in
general.

You were talking in general about something you know
next to nothing about when you wrote " keto is for people
that don't have the self control to simply eat less" and
I called you on your error, it has nothing to do with
me when you make a stupid generalization like that.

It's true, though. It would be much easier to simply eat less of
everything. No special diet required. Can't do that? Keto!

[Jim]

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
You take it too personally. Maybe you ate very reasonable amounts and
were still overweight due to a medical condition. That's none of my
business and I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking in
general.

You were talking in general about something you know
next to nothing about when you wrote " keto is for people
that don't have the self control to simply eat less" and
I called you on your error, it has nothing to do with
me when you make a stupid generalization like that.

It's true, though.

Wrong, the act of dieting requires one to have some semblance
of self control, but that won't stop you from trolling a mostly
American newsgroup all day, everyday, looking to take
pot shots at Americans with clueless generalizations
like that one. It's your entire motivation for being
here.

You have way too much free time on your hands, you
really need to find another hobby.

[Bruce]

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
You take it too personally. Maybe you ate very reasonable amounts and
were still overweight due to a medical condition. That's none of my
business and I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking in
general.

You were talking in general about something you know
next to nothing about when you wrote " keto is for people
that don't have the self control to simply eat less" and
I called you on your error, it has nothing to do with
me when you make a stupid generalization like that.

It's true, though.

Wrong, the act of dieting requires one to have some semblance
of self control

Yes, but clearly not as much as simply eating less, otherwise keto
followers would do that instead of keto.

Post by Jim
, but that won't stop you from trolling a mostly
American newsgroup all day, everyday, looking to take
pot shots at Americans with clueless generalizations
like that one.

Just because you disagree with me, I'm trolling? Besides, Americans
aren't the only ones who follow keto.

Post by Jim
It's your entire motivation for being here.
You have way too much free time on your hands, you
really need to find another hobby.

I wish I had a lot of free time on my hands.

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Post by Jim

Post by Bruce
You take it too personally. Maybe you ate very reasonable amounts and
were still overweight due to a medical condition. That's none of my
business and I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking in
general.

You were talking in general about something you know
next to nothing about when you wrote " keto is for people
that don't have the self control to simply eat less" and
I called you on your error, it has nothing to do with
me when you make a stupid generalization like that.

It's true, though. It would be much easier to simply eat less of
everything. No special diet required. Can't do that? Keto!

Plan B.

...for diabetics the best plan.

[Graham]

Post by Bruce
The most logical way to lose weight is to eat less.

+1


A recent study published in a reputable journal stated that exercise
makes little difference.

Post by Bruce
I weigh 181 at 6'ft2". No keto.

176 at 6'3". When I eat more, I put on weight. I lose it by eating less.

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Post by Michael Trew
Some of it has to do with genetics, but in the end, it comes down to
calories ingested/burned. I didn't set out to lose weight, but quitting
fast food and processed crap food does wonders. Never sweetened drinks.
A little over a year ago I set out to cut out unhealthy crap, my main
goal saving money, like always, heh. Since then, not having time to
cook for myself, and hardly eating for a while, I'm down to ~160 pounds
now. Greasy crap just upsets my stomach now. I was hungry for a while,
but got used to it.
I tried Chinese buffet again last month, but when you aren't used to
that food, it's just awful. I could barely stomach a plate and a half,
and I felt sick the rest of the day. My appetite is far less than it
used to be, but I can still eat whatever I want, when I want, unlike
Keto. Breakfast this morning was a skillet of home fries with olive oil
(although it's usually butter). I love my carbs, yum!

Keto's for people who don't have the self control to simply eat less.

Refined carbohydrates are conversion sugars for fatsos.

[Carol]

Michael Trew wrote:

Trimmed -on weight

Post by Michael Trew
Some of it has to do with genetics, but in the end, it comes down to
calories ingested/burned. I didn't set out to lose weight, but
quitting fast food and processed crap food does wonders.

Yes, it does. I have the fast metabolism genetics.

Post by Michael Trew
Never
sweetened drinks. A little over a year ago I set out to cut out
unhealthy crap, my main goal saving money, like always, heh.

Not a bad goal at all!

Post by Michael Trew
Since
then, not having time to cook for myself, and hardly eating for a
while, I'm down to ~160 pounds now. Greasy crap just upsets my
stomach now. I was hungry for a while, but got used to it.

That's how it goes. The body adjusts to a newer healthier weight. I
don't want to pry but the average height for males puts you pretty much
on target for weight.

Post by Michael Trew
I tried Chinese buffet again last month, but when you aren't used to
that food, it's just awful. I could barely stomach a plate and a
half, and I felt sick the rest of the day.

Looks like the choices didn't fit you now?

Post by Michael Trew
My appetite is far less
than it used to be, but I can still eat whatever I want, when I want,
unlike Keto. Breakfast this morning was a skillet of home fries with
olive oil (although it's usually butter). I love my carbs, yum!

And don't worry about it. When 'Total calorie intake = total calories
used' you stay stable. Watch Songbird. He eats more in summer when
he's expending a lot of energy on the garden. He seems to have
indicated (post some time back) that as the work drifts down, he just
naturally eats less. You may be shifting to that. It's a good way to
be, eating when hungry (or volume control based on hunger).

As you cut down eating, your stomach naturally shrunk. That's normal.
That's why one oversized meal made you not feel too good.

I love home fries in my trusty cast iron! Olive oil too but I add
butter as well. I'm going to dig through the freezer for the Duck and
make it up for the lovely fat! A splurge now and again, is good for
the soul.

Oh, here's an odd one. In winter, I crave fatty meats. That's just my
natural response to the cold. Buttered fish becomes a common dish.

[songbird]

Michael Trew wrote:
...

Post by Michael Trew
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

it is also a huge waste of money and resources. a
person can only use so much protein per day and anything
over that amount is converted and stored or excreted.


songbird

[Michael Trew]

Post by songbird
...

Post by Michael Trew
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

it is also a huge waste of money and resources. a
person can only use so much protein per day and anything
over that amount is converted and stored or excreted.

Not to mention a heart attack waiting to happen.

[songbird]

Post by Michael Trew

Post by songbird
...

Post by Michael Trew
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and grease
can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain whatever
weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is for life,
apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose weight.

it is also a huge waste of money and resources. a
person can only use so much protein per day and anything
over that amount is converted and stored or excreted.

Not to mention a heart attack waiting to happen.

that is somewhat dependent upon genetics. some people
have the right kind of genes which means they don't generate
so many artery plugging compounds in reaction to various
fats while others can have almost the opposite reaction
where their body generates all sorts of artery plugging
gunk pretty much no matter what they eat. drugs can help
those folks so they don't die as quickly as they otherwise
might, but it can still be iffy.

the body is a rather interesting system. :) add in the
complexity of all the other organisms that cohabitate and it
is pretty amazing.


songbird

[Carol]

Post by songbird
...

Post by Michael Trew
I don't understand the concept of Keto. All of that meat and
grease can't be healthy. Most keto stories I've heard, they gain
whatever weight lost as soon as they quit the diet -- that diet is
for life, apparently. It's a lot easier to cut calories and lose
weight.

it is also a huge waste of money and resources. a
person can only use so much protein per day and anything
over that amount is converted and stored or excreted.
songbird

Converted to fat, yup. It's said all the time, Americans on average
consume more meat than USDA recommends.

"A balanced meal often comes down to getting your portions right. As a
simple rule, fill half your plate with veges, one-quarter with protein
(lean meat, chicken, fish, tofu), and one-quarter with carbs like
potato, pasta or rice. Ideally, a raw serving of meat should be no more
than the size and thickness of your palm." (From USDA web site).

Keto not recommended for several reasons, among them is it's not heart
healthy and leaves gaps in vitamins and minerals. About 600g per day
seems the target. A single egg has 56g.

Generally we mess up with dinner. Not enough veggies. They should be
50% of the plate. If your meat serving for dinner is more than 4oz,
you probably are over because of lunch and breakfast. Low-carb/Keto
folks try to say they can eat more meat to make up for the missing
carbs.

Now songbird may be over too because beans count! But it's a 'healthy'
over and counts also as a fast energy starch.

It's a sort of 'everything in moderation' that works best to maintain
proper health. Cheating (in moderation) is fine! Cheating is good for
the soul (grin).

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Carol
Converted to fat, yup. It's said all the time, Americans on average
consume more meat than USDA recommends.

The USDA is a wholly own subsidiary of agribusiness.

Post by Carol
"A balanced meal often comes down to getting your portions right. As a
simple rule, fill half your plate with veges, one-quarter with protein
(lean meat, chicken, fish, tofu), and one-quarter with carbs like
potato, pasta or rice.

Provided the carbs are whole-grain or the potato retains its peel.

Post by Carol
Ideally, a raw serving of meat should be no more
than the size and thickness of your palm." (From USDA web site).
Keto not recommended for several reasons, among them is it's not heart
healthy and leaves gaps in vitamins and minerals.

Which vitamins and minerals?

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Cutting up the bacon before frying is a lot easier than crumbling cooked
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Keto breakfast of champions--> 1/3# bacon, fried with plenty of black
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French cut green beans, and salt to taste.

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