baked spaghetti

[songbird]

was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.

since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.

after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.


songbird

[Hank Rogers]

   was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
   since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
   after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain.  i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce.  yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
   songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate.  When I think of goulash I think
of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew beef, tomatoes,
bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with paprika, simmered in
beef broth with some aromatics to make a rich beef stew.  Not a pasta
dish made with macaroni.  The first time I was invited to a friends
house in the 1980's and she said they were serving "goulash" I was
surprised to find it was basically baked beef-a-roni made with ground
beef, macaroni, tomato sauce topped with cheese and baked.  It wasn't
bad but not something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Thanks. Your Majesty is very kind. These ignorant Butt heads have no
idea what true goulash is.

With time, perhaps your highness can educate them. Thanks for trying.

[gm]

Post by Hank Rogers

   was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
   since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
   after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain.  i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce.  yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
   songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate.  When I think of goulash I think
of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew beef, tomatoes,
bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with paprika, simmered in
beef broth with some aromatics to make a rich beef stew.  Not a pasta
dish made with macaroni.  The first time I was invited to a friends
house in the 1980's and she said they were serving "goulash" I was
surprised to find it was basically baked beef-a-roni made with ground
beef, macaroni, tomato sauce topped with cheese and baked.  It wasn't
bad but not something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Thanks. Your Majesty is very kind. These ignorant Butt heads have no
idea what true goulash is.
With time, perhaps your highness can educate them. Thanks for trying.

We Dataw serfs and peasants are natcherly too low - born to partake of
Princess Jill's gore - may authentic gulyas that she serves on gold
platters, but we are eternally grateful for the modest but filling
gruels and slumgullion that she so generously provides us...

--
GM

[Bruce]

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.

It's amazing that the two of you are still alive!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

My favorite recipe doesn't have pasta in it, but it already has peppers:

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

[jmcquown]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.

Jill

[Bruce]

Post by jmcquown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.

Some people here seem to think that goulash is a mix of all your
leftovers, whatever they may be.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by jmcquown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.

I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

[jmcquown]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by jmcquown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.

I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

Ah yes, there's that name, too!

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by jmcquown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.

I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

Almost as good as canned menudo

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by jmcquown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

    was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.

I know.  It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

Almost as good as canned menudo

A bunch of Szechuan tripe.

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

Post by Cindy Hamilton
I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

not even close, our version of chop suey contains chunks
of pork and beef along with bean sprouts and water chestnuts,
mushrooms and soy sauce. we've not made it in years. it's
not something that i consider better than what we get from
our favorite chinese place, but it is edible if you like
things like brown gravy, meat, etc. over rice. i'm not all
that big on rice - white rice doesn't really appeal to me
much, but brown rice is better, i like it made with lentils
but Mom won't do things like that so we really don't eat it
too often, she likes white rice made into fried rice.

but back to goulash, i consider it a take your favorite
sloppy joe recipe and add extra tomato chunks and elbow
macaroni.

baked spaghetti is close to the goulash recipe, but add
green peppers and red peppers (or hot peppers if you can
tolerate them, i can but Mom can't) and even some paprika
and chunks of a meltable cheese and top with cheese if you
want more. the past versions of it that i've had and liked
used Orzo pasta but as usual Mom has her own ideas and
elbow macaroni it is. i don't care, it's edible and tasty
enough, and i can spice it up more if needed. the sriracha
bbq sauce makes some nice added layers of flavors i'd not
usually have but someone gave me this bottle of TJ's
sriracha bbq sauce and i've done a good job of using most
of the bottle up the past week. i'd put it on my cereal
if i was having cereal... <-- joke...


songbird

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by songbird
...

Post by Cindy Hamilton
I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

not even close, our version of chop suey contains chunks
of pork and beef along with bean sprouts and water chestnuts,
mushrooms and soy sauce.

That's "Chop Suey", not "American Chop Suey":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_chop_suey

[jmcquown]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
...

Post by Cindy Hamilton
I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

not even close, our version of chop suey contains chunks
of pork and beef along with bean sprouts and water chestnuts,
mushrooms and soy sauce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_chop_suey

songbird is not noted for reading comprehension. I knew exactly what
you were talking about when you mentioned American Chop Suey in
reference to the macaroni/tomato sauce casserole dish he calls "baked
spaghetti".

Jill

[Jim]

Post by jmcquown
songbird is not noted for reading comprehension.
Jill

Is that how it reads in your Rolodex, Princess?

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by Jim

Post by jmcquown
songbird is not noted for reading comprehension.
Jill

Is that how it reads in your Rolodex, Princess?

So many here have failed her Royal Datawness, haven't they...

[Jim]

Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by Jim

Post by jmcquown
songbird is not noted for reading comprehension.
Jill

 >
Is that how it reads in your Rolodex, Princess?

So many here have failed her Royal Datawness, haven't they...

I can almost hear her scroll hit the floor, she obviously keeps receipts.

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by Jim

Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by Jim

Post by jmcquown
songbird is not noted for reading comprehension.
Jill

 >
Is that how it reads in your Rolodex, Princess?

So many here have failed her Royal Datawness, haven't they...

I can almost hear her scroll hit the floor, she obviously keeps receipts.

The keeping of lists never ends very well...

[songbird]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by songbird
...

Post by Cindy Hamilton
I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

not even close, our version of chop suey contains chunks
of pork and beef along with bean sprouts and water chestnuts,
mushrooms and soy sauce.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_chop_suey

never heard it called that and since i'm not in the northeast
of the USoA it doesn't surprise me.


songbird

[Jim]

Post by songbird
Mom won't do things like that
songbird

That's what they all say.

[Bruce]

Post by Jim

Post by songbird
Mom won't do things like that
songbird

That's what they all say.

Yes. And yet we were born.

[Jim]

Post by Bruce

Post by Jim

Post by songbird
Mom won't do things like that
songbird

That's what they all say.

Yes. And yet we were born.

I asked my mom if by any chance I was adopted,
she said - "why would we choose you?"

[Carol]

Post by songbird
...

Post by Cindy Hamilton
I know. It's also known as "American Chop Suey".

not even close, our version of chop suey contains chunks
of pork and beef along with bean sprouts and water chestnuts,
mushrooms and soy sauce.

Much closer. I'm more used to a chicken gravy thickened with
cornstarch for that and also has celery.

Post by songbird
we've not made it in years. it's
not something that i consider better than what we get from
our favorite chinese place, but it is edible if you like
things like brown gravy, meat, etc. over rice. i'm not all
that big on rice - white rice doesn't really appeal to me
much, but brown rice is better, i like it made with lentils
but Mom won't do things like that so we really don't eat it
too often, she likes white rice made into fried rice.
but back to goulash, i consider it a take your favorite
sloppy joe recipe and add extra tomato chunks and elbow
macaroni.
baked spaghetti is close to the goulash recipe, but add
green peppers and red peppers (or hot peppers if you can
tolerate them, i can but Mom can't) and even some paprika
and chunks of a meltable cheese and top with cheese if you
want more. the past versions of it that i've had and liked
used Orzo pasta but as usual Mom has her own ideas and
elbow macaroni it is. i don't care, it's edible and tasty
enough, and i can spice it up more if needed. the sriracha
bbq sauce makes some nice added layers of flavors i'd not
usually have but someone gave me this bottle of TJ's
sriracha bbq sauce and i've done a good job of using most
of the bottle up the past week. i'd put it on my cereal
if i was having cereal... <-- joke...
songbird

Long as you are happy, I'm happy! I had a roomate once who made
something like you mention but at my suggestion we added some leftover
canned veggies to it. We were happy and added lots of black pepper for
spicing. To her, it was a leftover 'whatever' dish. She came from
Nebraska and moved with me to the 50$ a month trailer for my last year
in college (assumed the place when I left with all the stuff I couldn't
get in my car to take to the Navy in my first duty station.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by jmcquown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

   was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and

https://www.daringgourmet.com/traditional-hungarian-goulash-gulyas/#recipe

What songbird has posted about appears to be like Chef-Boyardee ground
beef, macaroni and tomato sauce, not anything resembling what you and I
think of as goulash/gulyas.
Jill

Yes, your Majesty. I believe I'd rather have canned menudo.

[Carol]

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

Sounds good to me! I do a vegetarian version of it.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 21:50:03 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"

Post by Carol

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

Sounds good to me! I do a vegetarian version of it.

Which you then eat with a pig leg.

[Carol]

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate. When I think of goulash I
think of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew beef,
tomatoes, bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with paprika,
simmered in beef broth with some aromatics to make a rich beef stew.
Not a pasta dish made with macaroni. The first time I was invited to
a friends house in the 1980's and she said they were serving
"goulash" I was surprised to find it was basically baked beef-a-roni
made with ground beef, macaroni, tomato sauce topped with cheese and
baked. It wasn't bad but not something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often enough.
It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA claim (or try to)
specific recipes for it but there isn't really one.

It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several versions
around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of
a similar name with some similaries except the veggies shift.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 22:00:22 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"

Post by Carol

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate. When I think of goulash I
think of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew beef,
tomatoes, bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with paprika,
simmered in beef broth with some aromatics to make a rich beef stew.
Not a pasta dish made with macaroni. The first time I was invited to
a friends house in the 1980's and she said they were serving
"goulash" I was surprised to find it was basically baked beef-a-roni
made with ground beef, macaroni, tomato sauce topped with cheese and
baked. It wasn't bad but not something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often enough.
It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA claim (or try to)
specific recipes for it but there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several versions
around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of
a similar name with some similaries except the veggies shift.

An Indonesian dish called Goulai? Did Sheldon tell you about that?

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Bruce
On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 22:00:22 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"

Post by Carol

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate. When I think of goulash I
think of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew beef,
tomatoes, bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with paprika,
simmered in beef broth with some aromatics to make a rich beef stew.
Not a pasta dish made with macaroni. The first time I was invited to
a friends house in the 1980's and she said they were serving
"goulash" I was surprised to find it was basically baked beef-a-roni
made with ground beef, macaroni, tomato sauce topped with cheese and
baked. It wasn't bad but not something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often enough.
It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA claim (or try to)
specific recipes for it but there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several versions
around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of
a similar name with some similaries except the veggies shift.

An Indonesian dish called Goulai? Did Sheldon tell you about that?

Careful, Master. You are getting very close to another breakdown.

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate. When I think of goulash I
think of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew beef,
tomatoes, bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with paprika,
simmered in beef broth with some aromatics to make a rich beef stew.
Not a pasta dish made with macaroni. The first time I was invited to
a friends house in the 1980's and she said they were serving
"goulash" I was surprised to find it was basically baked beef-a-roni
made with ground beef, macaroni, tomato sauce topped with cheese and
baked. It wasn't bad but not something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often enough.
It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA claim (or try to)
specific recipes for it but there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several versions
around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of
a similar name with some similaries except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family has their
own recipe?

[Carol]

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate. When I think of goulash I
think of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew
beef, tomatoes, bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with
paprika, simmered in beef broth with some aromatics to make a
rich beef stew. Not a pasta dish made with macaroni. The first
time I was invited to a friends house in the 1980's and she said
they were serving "goulash" I was surprised to find it was
basically baked beef-a-roni made with ground beef, macaroni,
tomato sauce topped with cheese and baked. It wasn't bad but not
something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often
enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA
claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but there isn't really
one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several versions
around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an indonesia
dish of a similar name with some similaries except the veggies
shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family has
their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set recipe as
at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used to seeing the
main spicing element be black pepper but that won't be true for all,
nor should it be. The vaguely similar named Indonesian dish is spicy
(it's not directly related to Hungarian versions).

Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine might have
beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often vegetarian. Stray
turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by songbird
was made with elbows instead of the tiny pieces i remember,
but it's basically take your favorite goulash recipe and
add green peppers and cheese to it and bake it for a while.
since Mom doesn't tolerate spices we don't use hot sauces
or spices in it.
after you have it made it can be used for all sorts of
things if you don't want to eat it plain. i've been taking
my portions and cooking some chunked hot peppers and then
mixing that and some sriracha bbq sauce. yum yum and down
the hatch it goes.
songbird

What you call goulash doesn't equate. When I think of goulash I
think of a rich stew (gulyas) made with chunks of browned stew
beef, tomatoes, bell peppers and root vegetables, seasoned with
paprika, simmered in beef broth with some aromatics to make a
rich beef stew. Not a pasta dish made with macaroni. The first
time I was invited to a friends house in the 1980's and she said
they were serving "goulash" I was surprised to find it was
basically baked beef-a-roni made with ground beef, macaroni,
tomato sauce topped with cheese and baked. It wasn't bad but not
something I'd think about making.
But hey, whatever goulash works for you. :)
Jill

Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often
enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA
claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but there isn't really
one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several versions
around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an indonesia
dish of a similar name with some similaries except the veggies
shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family has
their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set recipe as
at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used to seeing the
main spicing element be black pepper but that won't be true for all,
nor should it be. The vaguely similar named Indonesian dish is spicy
(it's not directly related to Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine might have
beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often vegetarian. Stray
turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few vegetarian
dishes I would like? It has happened, historically, but it is not very
common. ;)

I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter and
banana in it.

[Carol]

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often
enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA
claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but there isn't really
one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several
versions around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an
indonesia dish of a similar name with some similaries except
the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family has
their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set
recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used to
seeing the main spicing element be black pepper but that won't be
true for all, nor should it be. The vaguely similar named
Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not directly related to Hungarian
versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine might
have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often vegetarian.
Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few vegetarian
dishes I would like? It has happened, historically, but it is not
very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far with
oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just didn't want to
cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted by the bar with cheap
but nice munchies. The locally famous 'white salsa' (a sour cream,
mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot of white pepper I
think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can get it there too.

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Carol
The locally famous 'white salsa' (a sour cream,
mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot of white pepper I
think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can get it there too.

https://www.thecountrycook.net/virginia-white-sauce-salsa/

I think I'll pass. How about you, Bryan?

[Carol]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Carol
The locally famous 'white salsa' (a sour cream,
mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot of white
pepper I think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can get it
there too.

https://www.thecountrycook.net/virginia-white-sauce-salsa/
I think I'll pass. How about you, Bryan?

Mi Casitas is the actual restaurant that developed the one I reference
and it's not the same. There is no problem making a copycat though.
Such is common.

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things often
enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas of the USA
claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but there isn't really
one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several
versions around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai, an
indonesia dish of a similar name with some similaries except
the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family has
their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set
recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used to
seeing the main spicing element be black pepper but that won't be
true for all, nor should it be. The vaguely similar named
Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not directly related to Hungarian
versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine might
have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often vegetarian.
Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few vegetarian
dishes I would like? It has happened, historically, but it is not
very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far with
oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just didn't want to
cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted by the bar with cheap
but nice munchies. The locally famous 'white salsa' (a sour cream,
mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot of white pepper I
think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the deadly
line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

[Carol]

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things
often enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas
of the USA claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but
there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several
versions around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai,
an indonesia dish of a similar name with some similaries
except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family
has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set
recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used
to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper but that
won't be true for all, nor should it be. The vaguely similar
named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not directly related to
Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often
vegetarian. Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far with
oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just didn't
want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted by the bar
with cheap but nice munchies. The locally famous 'white salsa' (a
sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot
of white pepper I think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can
get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

[Dave Smith]

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 12:57:26 -0400, Dave Smith

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

A vegetarian doesn't eat meat, also not chicken meat. Also no fish. Is
it really that hard?

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Bruce
On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 12:57:26 -0400, Dave Smith

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

A vegetarian doesn't eat meat, also not chicken meat. Also no fish. Is
it really that hard?

And no damn corn, right, Master?

[Carol]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different
degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or
fish etc. It is important to them to have a that special label.

I think most vegetarians do eggs (unfertilized as in common grocery
store ones) and milk products.

The others you mention aren't actually vegetarian if eating fish,
poultry etc.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:51:30 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"

Post by Carol

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol
Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different
degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or
fish etc. It is important to them to have a that special label.

I think most vegetarians do eggs (unfertilized as in common grocery
store ones) and milk products.

Yes, "vegetarian" does not mean you don't eat eggs. That doesn't mean
there are no vegetarians who don't eat eggs, but the word "vegetarian"
does not exclude eggs.

Post by Carol
The others you mention aren't actually vegetarian if eating fish,
poultry etc.

You are again correct!

Vegetarians don't eat dead animals. An egg isn't a dead animal. Honey
isn't a dead animal. Milk isn't a dead animal. A fish, however, is a
dead animal. It's not really complicated.

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Post by Bruce
Vegetarians don't eat dead animals.

Vell zen, you vil eaten zee bugs!

[D]

Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by Bruce
Vegetarians don't eat dead animals.

Vell zen, you vil eaten zee bugs!

Touché, gruppenfÌhrer!

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Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by Bruce
Vegetarians don't eat dead animals.

Vell zen, you vil eaten zee bugs!

Touché, gruppenführer!

Mein Grippen fliegt gut!

[D]

Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by D

Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by Bruce
Vegetarians don't eat dead animals.

Vell zen, you vil eaten zee bugs!

Touché, gruppenfÌhrer!

Mein Grippen fliegt gut!

Sehr gut! Dann können sie bitte die Bomben auf die kommunisten abwerfen?
;)

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Post by Helvetica Depot

Post by Bruce
Vegetarians don't eat dead animals.

Vell zen, you vil eaten zee bugs!

Touché, gruppenführer!

Mein Grippen  fliegt gut!

Sehr gut! Dann können sie bitte die Bomben auf die kommunisten abwerfen? ;)

Zurück zur Volga–Arkhangelsk linie!

And the heck with those flyover republics in the way.

[Dave Smith]

Post by Carol

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different
degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or
fish etc. It is important to them to have a that special label.

I think most vegetarians do eggs (unfertilized as in common grocery
store ones) and milk products.
The others you mention aren't actually vegetarian if eating fish,
poultry etc.

Tell that to the lacto vegetarians, the pollo vegetarians and the other
variations of people who eat mostly vegetables but who sometimes eat
various types of flesh so long as there is a label they can adopt to
make them special.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 16:39:43 -0400, Dave Smith

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol
I think most vegetarians do eggs (unfertilized as in common grocery
store ones) and milk products.
The others you mention aren't actually vegetarian if eating fish,
poultry etc.

Tell that to the lacto vegetarians, the pollo vegetarians and the other
variations of people who eat mostly vegetables but who sometimes eat
various types of flesh so long as there is a label they can adopt to
make them special.

The moment you see a group you're not part of, you feel the need to
put them down. Can you imagine a group of Dave Smiths? That would be a
riot.

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Post by Bruce
Can you imagine a group of Dave Smiths? That would be a
riot.

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[jmcquown]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel. I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes
roe/caviar. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs (but not chicken) and
consume dairy products including butter, cheeses, milk (only if you like
it, heh), yogurt, sour cream.

Jill

[Carol]

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking
Vegan perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are
different degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or
chicken and/or fish etc. It is important to them to have a that
special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel. I don't know if a pescetarian diet
includes roe/caviar. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs (but not
chicken) and consume dairy products including butter, cheeses, milk
(only if you like it, heh), yogurt, sour cream.
Jill

Yup but Pescetarian is just a joke really. Although I often eat very
close to vegetarian for 2-3 days a week, I'm not a vegetarian at all
but unfazed at cooking such dishes!

Tonight is not vegetarian at all. I'm experimenting with the rest of
the pork sausage. Top is browning right now.

I went very simple and can adjust next time based on taste of this one.
We shall see shortly!

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking
Vegan perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are
different degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or
chicken and/or fish etc. It is important to them to have a that
special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel. I don't know if a pescetarian diet
includes roe/caviar. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs (but not
chicken) and consume dairy products including butter, cheeses, milk
(only if you like it, heh), yogurt, sour cream.
Jill

Yup but Pescetarian is just a joke really. Although I often eat very
close to vegetarian for 2-3 days a week, I'm not a vegetarian at all
but unfazed at cooking such dishes!
Tonight is not vegetarian at all. I'm experimenting with the rest of
the pork sausage. Top is browning right now.
I went very simple and can adjust next time based on taste of this one.
We shall see shortly!

Also note that there is something called pesca-pescetarian as well. Those
are people who only eat fish that eat other fish.

[Carol]

Post by Carol

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with
peanut butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking
Vegan perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are
different degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or
chicken and/or fish etc. It is important to them to have a that
special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel. I don't know if a pescetarian diet
includes roe/caviar. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs (but not
chicken) and consume dairy products including butter, cheeses, milk
(only if you like it, heh), yogurt, sour cream.
Jill

Yup but Pescetarian is just a joke really. Although I often eat very
close to vegetarian for 2-3 days a week, I'm not a vegetarian at all
but unfazed at cooking such dishes!
Tonight is not vegetarian at all. I'm experimenting with the rest of
the pork sausage. Top is browning right now.
I went very simple and can adjust next time based on taste of this
one. We shall see shortly!

Casserole turned out good to me but the 1 can of rotel was a mistake.
Don's stomach didn't like it. If I make it again, it will be without
or with just 1/3 can.

Recipe was (first trial)
Leftover rice
1 can 15oz diced tomatoes
1 can 10oz rotel
1/2lb mild Italian pork sausage mix
1 cup slivered parmesan cheese
1 cup sharp grated cheese
home made crutons

https://postimg.cc/T5y3QWMR

https://postimg.cc/LY8XYbxg

https://postimg.cc/qhD78xFb

Fuzzy camera, sorry.

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with
peanut butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking
Vegan perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not
eat eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are
different degrees of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or
chicken and/or fish etc. It is important to them to have a that
special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel. I don't know if a pescetarian diet
includes roe/caviar. Ovo-lacto vegetarians eat eggs (but not
chicken) and consume dairy products including butter, cheeses, milk
(only if you like it, heh), yogurt, sour cream.
Jill

Yup but Pescetarian is just a joke really. Although I often eat very
close to vegetarian for 2-3 days a week, I'm not a vegetarian at all
but unfazed at cooking such dishes!
Tonight is not vegetarian at all. I'm experimenting with the rest of
the pork sausage. Top is browning right now.
I went very simple and can adjust next time based on taste of this
one. We shall see shortly!

Casserole turned out good to me but the 1 can of rotel was a mistake.
Don's stomach didn't like it. If I make it again, it will be without
or with just 1/3 can.
Recipe was (first trial)
Leftover rice
1 can 15oz diced tomatoes
1 can 10oz rotel
1/2lb mild Italian pork sausage mix
1 cup slivered parmesan cheese
1 cup sharp grated cheese
home made crutons
https://postimg.cc/T5y3QWMR
https://postimg.cc/LY8XYbxg
https://postimg.cc/qhD78xFb
Fuzzy camera, sorry.

Cheese heals all!

[Bruce]

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel.

It's been years, but yes.

Post by jmcquown
I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes roe/caviar.

Why not?

[Janet]

Post by Bruce

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel.

It's been years, but yes.

Post by jmcquown
I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes roe/caviar.

Why not?

Ovo-pescatarianism, the taste of communism.

Janet UK

[Bruce]

Post by Janet

Post by Bruce

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel.

It's been years, but yes.

Post by jmcquown
I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes roe/caviar.

Why not?

Ovo-pescatarianism, the taste of communism.

Yes, eggs and fish are typical commie food.

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Post by Bruce

Post by Janet

Post by Bruce

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel.

It's been years, but yes.

Post by jmcquown
I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes roe/caviar.

Why not?

Ovo-pescatarianism, the taste of communism.

Yes, eggs and fish are typical commie food.

Oddly enough they are.

Along with starchy bread and cheap cheese.

[Janet]

Post by Bruce

Post by Janet

Post by Bruce

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel.

It's been years, but yes.

Post by jmcquown
I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes roe/caviar.

Why not?

Ovo-pescatarianism, the taste of communism.

Yes, eggs and fish are typical commie food.

Caviar caveat.

Janet UK

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Post by Janet

Post by Bruce

Post by Janet

Post by Bruce

Post by jmcquown

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

Seems to me someone where has claimed that true vegetarians do not eat
eggs of fish. But then we have the fact that there are different degrees
of vegetarianism with some eating eggs and/or chicken and/or fish etc.
It is important to them to have a that special label.

Pescetarian comes to mind; Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties
made from canned mackerel.

It's been years, but yes.

Post by jmcquown
I don't know if a pescetarian diet includes roe/caviar.

Why not?

Ovo-pescatarianism, the taste of communism.

Yes, eggs and fish are typical commie food.

Caviar caveat.
Janet UK

Serf of royal reptiles.

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Bruce has admitted to eating fish patties made from canned mackerel.

A friggin' covert mackerel-snapper eh?

He can be found lurking here perhaps:


https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2016728/confession.webp?w=790&f=f9bd29a76e75d6ed1b5b2629a7fb66e2

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things
often enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas
of the USA claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but
there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several
versions around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai,
an indonesia dish of a similar name with some similaries
except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family
has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set
recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used
to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper but that
won't be true for all, nor should it be. The vaguely similar
named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not directly related to
Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often
vegetarian. Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far with
oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just didn't
want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted by the bar
with cheap but nice munchies. The locally famous 'white salsa' (a
sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot
of white pepper I think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can
get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy me and
always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so I avoid or
tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists which makes them
even worse human beings.

[Carol]

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of
things often enough. It's normally pretty thick.
Various areas of the USA claim (or try to) specific
recipes for it but there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are
several versions around that area. For a fun read,
look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of a similar name
with some similaries except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every
family has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a
set recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers.
I'm used to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper
but that won't be true for all, nor should it be. The
vaguely similar named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not
directly related to Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often
vegetarian. Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far
with oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just
didn't want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted
by the bar with cheap but nice munchies. The locally famous
'white salsa' (a sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild
green chilis and a lot of white pepper I think). Word of it
got to Mexico and now you can get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy
me and always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so
I avoid or tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists
which makes them even worse human beings.

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:55:36 -0000 (UTC), "Carol"

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy
me and always preach and assume they have some moral high ground

They do.

Post by Carol

Post by D
, so I avoid or tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists
which makes them even worse human beings.

I didn't know that vegans were against private ownership of means of
production.

Post by Carol
Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

Go, cshenkie!

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of
things often enough. It's normally pretty thick.
Various areas of the USA claim (or try to) specific
recipes for it but there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are
several versions around that area. For a fun read,
look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of a similar name
with some similaries except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every
family has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a
set recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers.
I'm used to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper
but that won't be true for all, nor should it be. The
vaguely similar named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not
directly related to Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often
vegetarian. Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in
there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far
with oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just
didn't want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted
by the bar with cheap but nice munchies. The locally famous
'white salsa' (a sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild
green chilis and a lot of white pepper I think). Word of it
got to Mexico and now you can get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by Carol

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy
me and always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so
I avoid or tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists
which makes them even worse human beings.

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones I'm
thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their recipe and
dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect them. =)

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by D

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of
things often enough.  It's normally pretty thick.
Various areas of the USA claim (or try to) specific
recipes for it but there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are
several versions around that area.  For a fun read,
look at Goulai, an indonesia dish of a similar name
with some similaries except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every
family has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a
set recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers.
I'm used to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper
but that won't be true for all, nor should it be.  The
vaguely similar named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not
directly related to Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn.  Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice.  Mine are often
vegetarian.  Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in
there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian).  Today was vegetarian so far
with oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango.  I just
didn't want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted
by the bar with cheap but nice munchies.  The locally famous
'white salsa' (a sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild
green chilis and a lot of white pepper I think).  Word of it
got to Mexico and now you can get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut
butter and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy
me and always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so
I avoid or tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists
which makes them even worse human beings.

Naw, not always.  Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets.  He doesn't try to convince others.  He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones I'm
thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their recipe and
dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect them. =)

When I make something that happens to be vegan, it usually has
mushrooms, and I avoid adding meat because the meat can muscle in and
steal the spotlight. Last week I made a stir fry that featured ripe
bell peppers and bamboo shoots. Meat would have been a distraction from
those flavors.

[Carol]

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones I'm
thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their recipe
and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of vegetarians
on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat vegetarian apparently as
the story was told. Dave perhaps?

Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese plane
and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit spreads.

He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one main
but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that pretty much.

BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring empty
containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just how it's
always been here. The tradition predates us arriving here. I just
host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

[Dave Smith]

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones I'm
thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their recipe
and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of vegetarians
on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat vegetarian apparently as
the story was told. Dave perhaps?

I went to Georgia with some people from our kayak club and one of them
was a vegetarian. Some others were semi vegetarians and thought that
when we took turns cooking we had to arrange to have some vegan options.
When going out to restaurants they insisted we had to go to places
with vegetarian options.

I mentioned about my brother's vegetarian son and DiL who used to come
down for the holidays that featured special meat dishes like
Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter. One time they came for Easter and
SiL had just had knee surgery. Instead of someone stepping up to take on
cooking supper the decided to order Chinese food. Rather than order the
vegetarian dishes they wanted they insisted everyone should order
vegetarian dishes.

When my brother and his wife went up to visit them there was never
meat offered. If they wanted meat with a meal they had to go out to a
restaurant, and then they would get stuck with the bill. My brother
wanted to grill a steak on the BBQ the DiL would not let them.

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese plane
and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit spreads.
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one main
but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring empty
containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just how it's
always been here. The tradition predates us arriving here. I just
host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by Dave Smith
When my brother and his wife went up to visit them there was never
meat offered.

Well boo fucking hoo, Officer Pecksniff, you whinging old washerwoman.

Tell your brother to travel with beef jerky, you obsequious onanist.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 15:13:56 -0400, Dave Smith

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol
Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of vegetarians
on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat vegetarian apparently as
the story was told. Dave perhaps?

I went to Georgia with some people from our kayak club and one of them
was a vegetarian. Some others were semi vegetarians and thought that
when we took turns cooking we had to arrange to have some vegan options.
When going out to restaurants they insisted we had to go to places
with vegetarian options.

The horror! The scandal!

(are there restaurants that have no vegetarian options?)

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 15:13:56 -0400, Dave Smith

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol
Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of vegetarians
on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat vegetarian apparently as
the story was told. Dave perhaps?

I went to Georgia with some people from our kayak club and one of them
was a vegetarian. Some others were semi vegetarians and thought that
when we took turns cooking we had to arrange to have some vegan options.
When going out to restaurants they insisted we had to go to places
with vegetarian options.

The horror! The scandal!
(are there restaurants that have no vegetarian options?)

https://atlantafi.com/best-keto-restaurants-atlanta/

Even keto embraces lettuce, trollbreath.

[Carol]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He
brings dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones
I'm thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their
recipe and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect
them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of
vegetarians on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat
vegetarian apparently as the story was told. Dave perhaps?

I went to Georgia with some people from our kayak club and one of
them was a vegetarian. Some others were semi vegetarians and thought
that when we took turns cooking we had to arrange to have some vegan
options. When going out to restaurants they insisted we had to go
to places with vegetarian options.
I mentioned about my brother's vegetarian son and DiL who used to
come down for the holidays that featured special meat dishes like
Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter. One time they came for Easter
and SiL had just had knee surgery. Instead of someone stepping up to
take on cooking supper the decided to order Chinese food. Rather than
order the vegetarian dishes they wanted they insisted everyone should
order vegetarian dishes.
When my brother and his wife went up to visit them there was never
meat offered. If they wanted meat with a meal they had to go out to a
restaurant, and then they would get stuck with the bill. My brother
wanted to grill a steak on the BBQ the DiL would not let them.

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese
plane and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit
spreads.
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one
main but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that
pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring
empty containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just
how it's always been here. The tradition predates us arriving
here. I just host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

Unusual though Dave. My own experiences have been easy going and work
places always had a mix.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Carol

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He
brings dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones
I'm thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their
recipe and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect
them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of
vegetarians on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat
vegetarian apparently as the story was told. Dave perhaps?

I went to Georgia with some people from our kayak club and one of
them was a vegetarian. Some others were semi vegetarians and thought
that when we took turns cooking we had to arrange to have some vegan
options. When going out to restaurants they insisted we had to go
to places with vegetarian options.
I mentioned about my brother's vegetarian son and DiL who used to
come down for the holidays that featured special meat dishes like
Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter. One time they came for Easter
and SiL had just had knee surgery. Instead of someone stepping up to
take on cooking supper the decided to order Chinese food. Rather than
order the vegetarian dishes they wanted they insisted everyone should
order vegetarian dishes.
When my brother and his wife went up to visit them there was never
meat offered. If they wanted meat with a meal they had to go out to a
restaurant, and then they would get stuck with the bill. My brother
wanted to grill a steak on the BBQ the DiL would not let them.

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese
plane and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit
spreads.
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one
main but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that
pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring
empty containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just
how it's always been here. The tradition predates us arriving
here. I just host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

Unusual though Dave. My own experiences have been easy going and work
places always had a mix.

Officer Dave's presence sort of brings out the worst in people.

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by Hank Rogers
Officer Dave's presence sort of brings out the worst in people.

Officer Pecksniff _IS_ the "worst in people".

[gm]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Carol

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He
brings dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones
I'm thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their
recipe and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect
them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of
vegetarians on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat
vegetarian apparently as the story was told. Dave perhaps?

I went to Georgia with some people from our kayak club and one of
them was a vegetarian. Some others were semi vegetarians and thought
that when we took turns cooking we had to arrange to have some vegan
options. When going out to restaurants they insisted we had to go
to places with vegetarian options.
I mentioned about my brother's vegetarian son and DiL who used to
come down for the holidays that featured special meat dishes like
Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter. One time they came for Easter
and SiL had just had knee surgery. Instead of someone stepping up to
take on cooking supper the decided to order Chinese food. Rather than
order the vegetarian dishes they wanted they insisted everyone should
order vegetarian dishes.
When my brother and his wife went up to visit them there was never
meat offered. If they wanted meat with a meal they had to go out to a
restaurant, and then they would get stuck with the bill. My brother
wanted to grill a steak on the BBQ the DiL would not let them.

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese
plane and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit
spreads.
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one
main but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that
pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring
empty containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just
how it's always been here. The tradition predates us arriving
here. I just host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

Unusual though Dave. My own experiences have been easy going and work
places always had a mix.

Officer Dave's presence sort of brings out the worst in people.

Olde Dave has some truly "tiresome" relatives, lol...

I'm eagerly awaiting a "Big Niece" story, myself...

--
GM

[Gary]

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers
Officer Dave's presence sort of brings out the worst in people.

Olde Dave has some truly "tiresome" relatives, lol...
I'm eagerly awaiting a "Big Niece" story, myself...

I'd like to hear some HER "Uncle Dave" stories.

[gm]

Post by Gary

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers
Officer Dave's presence sort of brings out the worst in people.

Olde Dave has some truly "tiresome" relatives, lol...
I'm eagerly awaiting a "Big Niece" story, myself...

I'd like to hear some HER "Uncle Dave" stories.

Yup, I bet she calls him "Uncle Grump", lol...

--
GM

[Helvetica Depot]

I didn't tell her mother that she was right, that I don't like her and
that she might consider herself lucky that I even went to a restaurant
with her after the way she behaved the previous couple of times.

You're just a complete asshole to ALL, family included!

[Helvetica Depot]

Post by gm

Post by Hank Rogers
Officer Dave's presence sort of brings out the worst in people.

Olde Dave has some truly "tiresome" relatives, lol...

 > I'm eagerly awaiting a "Big Niece" story, myself...
I'd like to hear some HER "Uncle Dave" stories.

Show us on the bear where he hurt you...

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He brings
dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones I'm
thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their recipe
and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of vegetarians
on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat vegetarian apparently as
the story was told. Dave perhaps?

Hmm, I think perhaps the problem is when it goes from a personal dietary
preference to a religion? I am equally annoyed by religious people
knocking on my door, even though my academic philosophy training makes
short work of them, and sometimes rattles their faith a little.

That reminds me... I actually managed to convert a vegan to eating meat in
one of my teams I was managing at a consulting gig I had. It was a proud
moment! ;)

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese plane
and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit spreads.

Nuts are good!

Post by Carol
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one main
but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring empty
containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just how it's
always been here. The tradition predates us arriving here. I just
host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

At my events I organize, we're usually between 30 and 50 people, sometimes
up to 120 people. But food wise it's only either burgers or pizza, but
yes, sometimes there are left overs which anyone can take. For some
reason, there is never any left overs when it comes to the beer!

[Carol]

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol

Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They
annoy me and always preach and assume they have some moral high

Naw, not always. Have a happy one that joins our quarterly
neighborhood buffets. He doesn't try to convince others. He
brings dishes just like everyone else.

That is good! In that case, they are more than welcome! The ones
I'm thinking of, would try to force everyone to conform to their
recipe and dietary habits, but if they respect me, and I respect
them. =)

Same here! One of us had a bad time once with a group of
vegetarians on a river trip. They wanted everyone to eat
vegetarian apparently as the story was told. Dave perhaps?

Confirmed later, was Dave.

Post by D
Hmm, I think perhaps the problem is when it goes from a personal
dietary preference to a religion? I am equally annoyed by religious
people knocking on my door, even though my academic philosophy
training makes short work of them, and sometimes rattles their faith
a little.
That reminds me... I actually managed to convert a vegan to eating
meat in one of my teams I was managing at a consulting gig I had. It
was a proud moment! ;)

Meanie! Leave them be and more meat for the rest of us!

Post by D

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese
plane and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit
spreads.

Nuts are good!

He also does a lot of different breads done with baking soda and baking
powder. He likes whole wheat types and does good ones.

When the Christmas one rolls about, we make sure to have a turkey as an
alternative to ham and our Jewish neighbors collaberate with the moslem
ones across the street to come up with matches that work for both of
them. Don loves the creamed herring!

Post by D

Post by Carol
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one
main but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that
pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring
empty containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just
how it's always been here. The tradition predates us arriving
here. I just host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

At my events I organize, we're usually between 30 and 50 people,
sometimes up to 120 people. But food wise it's only either burgers or
pizza, but yes, sometimes there are left overs which anyone can take.
For some reason, there is never any left overs when it comes to the
beer!

I used to host bigger ones, up to 60 but normally 35-40. Times change
and new folks move in who replace ones who moved out or passed away.
Next door used to be Art and his wife (Jewish, both passed, now his
daughter who is also Jewish lives there with here husband and his
brother and all Jewish. They did turkey Thanksgiving and Christmas the
past year. The Moslem fellow did little fat cookies and flatbreads
from the middle east

Basically it all works out fine. Talk ranges from work to hobbies and
such.

[D]

Post by Carol

Post by D
Hmm, I think perhaps the problem is when it goes from a personal
dietary preference to a religion? I am equally annoyed by religious
people knocking on my door, even though my academic philosophy
training makes short work of them, and sometimes rattles their faith
a little.
That reminds me... I actually managed to convert a vegan to eating
meat in one of my teams I was managing at a consulting gig I had. It
was a proud moment! ;)

Meanie! Leave them be and more meat for the rest of us!

No, no, it was actually a net benefit! He complained himself that he
always felt sluggish and low energy, and I started gently suggesting
some fish perhaps, and he did, and his energy increased, and since it
improved his health, he took the step to meat himself. Then I left the
gig, and 4 months later I met him and asked how he felt, and he said
that since he started to eat meat, his life changed! Full of energy,
happier, sharper thinking skills, so he was a happy man! =)

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
Anyways, our local vegan brings lots of various munchies, like salty
sweet crackers with lots of nuts in them. I bring out the cheese
plane and a variety of cheeses and others bring home made fruit
spreads.

Nuts are good!

He also does a lot of different breads done with baking soda and baking
powder. He likes whole wheat types and does good ones.
When the Christmas one rolls about, we make sure to have a turkey as an
alternative to ham and our Jewish neighbors collaberate with the moslem
ones across the street to come up with matches that work for both of
them. Don loves the creamed herring!

Really? I can count the number of likeable moslems I've met on the
fingers on one hand. You surely must live in a little patch of utopia!
Maybe this american polarization I hear and read so much about is
exaggerated?

Post by Carol

Post by D

Post by Carol
He also does a terrific pan fried mushroom series. He'll add one
main but normally appetizers so if he's coming, he covers that
pretty much.
BTW, our buffet fun gatherings come with an expectation to bring
empty containers for favored leftovers. No need to ask. It's just
how it's always been here. The tradition predates us arriving
here. I just host more often now. (2 of 3 roughly)

At my events I organize, we're usually between 30 and 50 people,
sometimes up to 120 people. But food wise it's only either burgers or
pizza, but yes, sometimes there are left overs which anyone can take.
For some reason, there is never any left overs when it comes to the
beer!

I used to host bigger ones, up to 60 but normally 35-40. Times change
and new folks move in who replace ones who moved out or passed away.
Next door used to be Art and his wife (Jewish, both passed, now his
daughter who is also Jewish lives there with here husband and his
brother and all Jewish. They did turkey Thanksgiving and Christmas the
past year. The Moslem fellow did little fat cookies and flatbreads
from the middle east
Basically it all works out fine. Talk ranges from work to hobbies and
such.

My father used to work a lot with jordan and every time he came home
after a trip he would have a box of sweets based on nuts and honey. They
were excellent!

[Carol]

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When the Christmas one rolls about, we make sure to have a turkey
as an alternative to ham and our Jewish neighbors collaberate with
the moslem ones across the street to come up with matches that work
for both of them. Don loves the creamed herring!

Really? I can count the number of likeable moslems I've met on the
fingers on one hand. You surely must live in a little patch of utopia!
Maybe this american polarization I hear and read so much about is
exaggerated?

Perhaps the difference is neither are recent immigrants to the USA.
Several generations on both sides. I just recall one follows Halal and
the other kosher. There is a bit of culinary habits that match,
especially in meatless dishes.

We gather to talk about work and family, not politics much and when
politics come up, it's mostly local ones (city counsil etc.).

Yes, you probably here more about the radical cases and new immigrants
than about folks like these who have been here 2-3 generations. If you
came to one of ours, you'd not catch on who was who most likely. You'd
likely just leave knowing who was the plummer vs worked at social
security or local hospital nurse.

[D]

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Post by Carol
When the Christmas one rolls about, we make sure to have a turkey
as an alternative to ham and our Jewish neighbors collaberate with
the moslem ones across the street to come up with matches that work
for both of them. Don loves the creamed herring!

Really? I can count the number of likeable moslems I've met on the
fingers on one hand. You surely must live in a little patch of utopia!
Maybe this american polarization I hear and read so much about is
exaggerated?

Perhaps the difference is neither are recent immigrants to the USA.
Several generations on both sides. I just recall one follows Halal and
the other kosher. There is a bit of culinary habits that match,
especially in meatless dishes.

Yes, that sounds like a good explanation. Good illustration of
assimilation vs multi-culturalism.

Post by Carol
We gather to talk about work and family, not politics much and when
politics come up, it's mostly local ones (city counsil etc.).

No politics? Isn't it age old advice, that the best topics in polite
society is politics and religion? ;)

Post by Carol
Yes, you probably here more about the radical cases and new immigrants
than about folks like these who have been here 2-3 generations. If you
came to one of ours, you'd not catch on who was who most likely. You'd
likely just leave knowing who was the plummer vs worked at social
security or local hospital nurse.

Does sound lovely. Maybe there is hope for the world after all! =)

[dsi1]

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Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things
often enough. It's normally pretty thick. Various areas
of the USA claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but
there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several
versions around that area. For a fun read, look at Goulai,
an indonesia dish of a similar name with some similaries
except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family
has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set
recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers. I'm used
to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper but that
won't be true for all, nor should it be. The vaguely similar
named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not directly related to
Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn. Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice. Mine are often
vegetarian. Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian). Today was vegetarian so far with
oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango. I just didn't
want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted by the bar
with cheap but nice munchies. The locally famous 'white salsa' (a
sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot
of white pepper I think). Word of it got to Mexico and now you can
get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

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I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy me and
always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so I avoid or
tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists which makes them
even worse human beings.

My son had a friend that he called "The Evil Vegan." We once went to see
him take a "burrito challenge." All he had to do was eat and finish a
huge burrito in 20 minutes. The prize was that he didn't have to pay for
the food. That doesn't sound like much of a prize to me - unless you
consider a chance to have a case of eruptive diarrhea to be a good
thing. Hopefully, he got a free T-shirt or a stupid plastic trophy along
with that giant burrito. His burrito was a vegan one, of course.

The clock starts and I decided that I wasn't going to sit around and
watch this big lug stuff his face. Unlike the rest of my family, I am
discerning about my entertainment options. I took a stroll around the
mall where this "competition" was taking place. I didn't go far, just
down a wing and around the center stage area and then back. My uncanny
sense of timing told me that I'd be back in time to see the home
stretch. Maybe I'd even get a chance to see someone puke. When I got
back to the taco joint, the Evil Vegan wasn't at the table anymore. He
was standing around with the family yakking away. It seems that it took
him about 7 minutes to wolf that food down. Now I know why he's called
the evil Vegan.

The Evil Vegan has since left the island. I figure that's probably a
good thing for all parties involved.

[D]

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Post by D
No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy me and
always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so I avoid or
tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists which makes them
even worse human beings.

My son had a friend that he called "The Evil Vegan." We once went to see
him take a "burrito challenge." All he had to do was eat and finish a
huge burrito in 20 minutes. The prize was that he didn't have to pay for
the food. That doesn't sound like much of a prize to me - unless you
consider a chance to have a case of eruptive diarrhea to be a good
thing. Hopefully, he got a free T-shirt or a stupid plastic trophy along
with that giant burrito. His burrito was a vegan one, of course.

Oh my... eating competitions are revolting. I cannot watch it,
regardless of the food that is being consumed en masse. =/

Post by dsi1
The clock starts and I decided that I wasn't going to sit around and
watch this big lug stuff his face. Unlike the rest of my family, I am
discerning about my entertainment options. I took a stroll around the

You are a wise man! I would have joined you.

Post by dsi1
The Evil Vegan has since left the island. I figure that's probably a
good thing for all parties involved.

I think so. Probably that is why Hawaii is one of the happier states, as
per the previous post. =)

[Helvetica Depot]

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Goulash is one of those 'empty the fridge' sort of things
often enough.  It's normally pretty thick.  Various areas
of the USA claim (or try to) specific recipes for it but
there isn't really one.
It seems to originate around Hungary but there are several
versions around that area.  For a fun read, look at Goulai,
an indonesia dish of a similar name with some similaries
except the veggies shift.

I wonder if it is like swedish meatballs in that every family
has their own recipe?

I would say yes except from my familiarity, it's seldom a set
recipe as at least some aspects tend to be leftovers.  I'm used
to seeing the main spicing element be black pepper but that
won't be true for all, nor should it be.  The vaguely similar
named Indonesian dish is spicy (it's not directly related to
Hungarian versions).
Mine uses no potatoes but will have tomatoes and corn.  Mine
might have beans and often leftover rice.  Mine are often
vegetarian.  Stray turnips, if I have one, is likely in there.

Quite a mix! I wonder if that would be one of the very few
vegetarian dishes I would like? It has happened, historically,
but it is not very common. ;)

I often eat that way (vegetarian).  Today was vegetarian so far with
oat/sesame crackers, 2 eggs, A PB&J and a mango.  I just didn't
want to cook and Don ran into a small bar party fronted by the bar
with cheap but nice munchies.  The locally famous 'white salsa' (a
sour cream, mayo and spices dish with mild green chilis and a lot
of white pepper I think).  Word of it got to Mexico and now you can
get it there too.

Are eggs vegetarian? If so, that would bring me much closer to the
deadly line of vegetarianism, since I do eat a lot of eggs. =/

Post by D
I think my favourite vegetarian dish is oatmeal with peanut butter
and banana in it.

Snicker!

Many vegetarian diets do allow for eggs. You might be thinking Vegan
perhaps?

No idea! I try very hard to stay away from ve*an people. They annoy me and
always preach and assume they have some moral high ground, so I avoid or
tell them to f*ck off. Also they tend to be socialists which makes them
even worse human beings.

My son had a friend that he called "The Evil Vegan." We once went to see
him take a "burrito challenge." All he had to do was eat and finish a
huge burrito in 20 minutes. The prize was that he didn't have to pay for
the food. That doesn't sound like much of a prize to me - unless you
consider a chance to have a case of eruptive diarrhea to be a good
thing. Hopefully, he got a free T-shirt or a stupid plastic trophy along
with that giant burrito. His burrito was a vegan one, of course.
The clock starts and I decided that I wasn't going to sit around and
watch this big lug stuff his face. Unlike the rest of my family, I am
discerning about my entertainment options. I took a stroll around the
mall where this "competition" was taking place. I didn't go far, just
down a wing and around the center stage area and then back. My uncanny
sense of timing told me that I'd be back in time to see the home
stretch. Maybe I'd even get a chance to see someone puke. When I got
back to the taco joint, the Evil Vegan wasn't at the table anymore. He
was standing around with the family yakking away. It seems that it took
him about 7 minutes to wolf that food down. Now I know why he's called
the evil Vegan.
The Evil Vegan has since left the island. I figure that's probably a
good thing for all parties involved.

I half or more expected t see you report on him blowing chunks.

How is gluttony "entertainment" in this corrupted matrix?

I'd have spent my time and money getting a proper shaved ice or Orange
Julius.