Batch of Mirepoix

[f***@sdf.org]

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26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.

5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery

20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
strained, hot filled jars, processed for 30 minutes in the
pressure canner plus heat up and cool down. my canner holds 18
regular mouth pints so two batches.

now have about 1 year worth of mirepoix which will get used not
only for soups and stews, but also for braising, de-glazing,
gravies, cooking whole grains such as barley, farro, bulgur
wheat, rice. mixed with some melted butter or oil and herbs is
a nice baste for grilled / rotisserie poultry. and so on.

kind of a useful way to spend an ugly, blustery, snowy, rainy
day. and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by f***@sdf.org
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.
5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery
and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
neighbors and my trash cans and put them away. Picked
up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
maple tree that falls in my yard. I think you have me
beat on being industrious.

[Ed P]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by f***@sdf.org
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.
5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery
and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
neighbors and my trash cans and put them away.  Picked
up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
maple tree that falls in my yard.  I think you have me
beat on being industrious.

Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.

Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Ed P

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by f***@sdf.org
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.
5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery
and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
neighbors and my trash cans and put them away.  Picked
up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
maple tree that falls in my yard.  I think you have me
beat on being industrious.

Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

Drove my mother to the podiatrist and then to lunch (I had a burger).
Refilled her days-of-the-week pill cases.

[dsi1]

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

These ladies were:

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

[BryanGSimmons]

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

D) Cuban

[dsi1]

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

D) Cuban

That makes sense. Thanks.

[Ed P]

Post by dsi1

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

 >
D) Cuban

That makes sense. Thanks.

Never met a Cuban in this area that I was aware of. Most are in the
southern part of the state. There are close to 2 million Cuban
Americans in the state, Miami being the biggest concentration at 60% of
the population. .

[dsi1]

Post by Ed P

Post by dsi1

Post by BryanGSimmons

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

 >
D) Cuban

That makes sense. Thanks.

Never met a Cuban in this area that I was aware of. Most are in the
southern part of the state. There are close to 2 million Cuban
Americans in the state, Miami being the biggest concentration at 60% of
the population. .

I shall assume that you know what you're talking about. I love salsa.

[Ed P]

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

B

As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming. Florida
could not exist without them.

I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

[D]

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

B

Ay caramba! A hot little mamacita!

This beautiful story brings tears to my eyes. An older, white gentleman,
supporting a young, innocent mexican mamacita, gradually growing closer.
One day our mamacita by "accident" dropped something on the floor, bends
down, while Ed is watching and rekindles feelings in him, he thought were
gone forever.

To be continued!

I will try and book Fabio as the model for Ed on the book cover!

As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming. Florida could
not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business. Sometimes
I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never raised the
price, but I just started paying more twice.

[dsi1]

Post by Ed P

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

B
As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming. Florida
could not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
world.

[Dave Smith]

Post by dsi1

As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
could not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
world.

You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.

[dsi1]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by dsi1

As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
could not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
world.

You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.

I agree. We're supposed to be getting rid of the nasty, violent,
criminally prone, immigrants. Mostly, it's a terrorist campaign. To what
end? I donno.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-deportation-raids-trump-immigration-b2695684.html

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by dsi1

As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
could not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
world.

You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.

Officer Dave, he's not a policeman. Plus, he now has trump to do all
that dirty work.

Soon there will only be da hawayans (and da asians) left on his rock.
Then there will be much aloha again (MAA)

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by dsi1

As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
could not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
world.

You could go a long way to solving the problem by going after the people
who are bringing them in and those who are employing illegal workers.
Huge fines would counteract the appeal of low wages being paid.

Officer Dave, he's not a policeman. Plus, he now has trump to do all
that dirty work.

Soon there will only be da hawayans (and da asians) left on his rock.
Then there will be much aloha again (MAA)

[Hank Rogers]

Post by dsi1

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped.  Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

  B
As is most of the cleaning, landscape, construction, farming.  Florida
could not exist without them.
I needed some help about six years ago and found a local business.
Sometimes I get a different person, but all do an excellent job. Never
raised the price, but I just started paying more twice.

These must be scary times for those cleaning ladies, they might know or
have some family members that could be grabbed by ICE at any time of the
day or night. As we all know, any country that doesn't protect its
weakest members of society, will never be great or a shining star in the
world.

Tojo, aren't yoose glad trump hasn't yet decided to go after yoose
asians who invaded da Hawayans?

[D]

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

[dsi1]

Post by D

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

Sounds like something from the 60's.

[Bruce]

Post by dsi1

Post by D

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

Sounds like something from the 60's.

Set in the German Alps.

[D]

Post by dsi1

Post by D

Post by dsi1

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything, all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished, trash taken out, clean sheets on the bed.
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

A) Filipino
B) Mexican
C) Swedish

Hah! Easy! It was Inga, blonde and blue eyes, in a beautiful and sexy
little maid uniform. Ed is da playah! =D

Sounds like something from the 60's.
http://youtu.be/gItQFtMRDPU

Wow, I didn't know that Ed uploaded the videos! How very kind of him! =D

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything,

I did that yesterday.

Post by Ed P
all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished,

That was done on Saturday here.

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

Post by Ed P
clean sheets on the bed.

That was a Saturday chore.

Post by Ed P
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that. I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

I'm the cleaning lady around here.

[Ed P]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
Oh, wait, the cleaning ladies did that.  I played on the computer and
paid them when they were done.

I'm the cleaning lady around here.

I needed the help a whole back. Later, less so but I was spoiled so
just kept it up. I can make an extensive list of things I'm capable of
doing but have never done since I've been here.

Maybe once a year something happens I have to get the vacuum going.
I've never washed a mirror, the glass slider, dusted and a bunch of
other things like that. When they leave, the kitchen appliances look
like the day we moved in.

I do put the colored wash in first thing and put it in the dryer, but
they fold it when done. Neater that I can do.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
Did laundry, folded and put away everything,

I did that yesterday.

Post by Ed P
all floors were vacuumed,
tiles mopped. Both bathrooms cleaned complete, kitchen cleaned,
appliances polished,

That was done on Saturday here.

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

[Jill McQuown]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)

Around here the regional government is responsible for garbage.They
contract it out to private companies. We had a holiday yesterday and
the contractor was out picking it up and hauling it to the dump. Our
pickup was today.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

Free enterprise. No central planning.

Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
power, using the same transmission lines.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

Free enterprise. No central planning.
Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
power, using the same transmission lines.

We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
send trucks and people here to do their thing.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

Free enterprise. No central planning.
Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
power, using the same transmission lines.

We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
send trucks and people here to do their thing.

I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

In my locality, two separate companies pick up residential solid waste
and commercial solid waste.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

Free enterprise. No central planning.
Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
power, using the same transmission lines.

We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
send trucks and people here to do their thing.

I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

The market doesn't mind polluting.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

Free enterprise. No central planning.
Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
power, using the same transmission lines.

We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
send trucks and people here to do their thing.

I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

The market doesn't mind polluting.

Of course not. Those externalities are shifted to the commons.
We could do something about that, but not in a country full of
people who are terribly afraid that someone else is going to get
(at taxpayer expense) something to which they are not entitled.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:12:13 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton
I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

The market doesn't mind polluting.

Of course not. Those externalities are shifted to the commons.
We could do something about that, but not in a country full of
people who are terribly afraid that someone else is going to get
(at taxpayer expense) something to which they are not entitled.

Yes, that has to be avoided at, literally, all costs.

[D]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 13:31:29 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:48:35 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown
People in this area have to hire private trash pickup. No city or
county trash pickup. The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays. A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service. Guess which one I use? ;)

You have different garbage collection companies collecting garbage in
the same street? That sounds insane.

Free enterprise. No central planning.
Some places also have more than one electric utility providing
power, using the same transmission lines.

We have that with electricity and Internet too. But they don't have to
send trucks and people here to do their thing.

I suppose if it were inefficient, the market would take care of that.

The market doesn't mind polluting.

Of course not. Those externalities are shifted to the commons.
We could do something about that, but not in a country full of
people who are terribly afraid that someone else is going to get
(at taxpayer expense) something to which they are not entitled.

Nope, you either internalize it, or get rid of the commons. Problem
solved.

Also note that richer and more capitalist countries, are generally more
clean and respectful of the environment than socialist countries. This is
proven.

[Ed P]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

Our town in CT had private haulers. My neighbor owned one and was
reasonable price, but eventually he closed it.

Meantime, the town issued a sticker to use the landfill for $2 a year.
That worked.

[Graham]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
xmas and good friday.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Graham

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
xmas and good friday.

Good Friday? How quaint.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Graham

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
xmas and good friday.

Good Friday? How quaint.

Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

[Graham]

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Graham

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
xmas and good friday.

Good Friday? How quaint.

Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

GF always was and I suppose still is a public holiday in the UK. So
that may be the reason why it is in the old Commonwealth.

[Bruce]

Post by Graham

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Graham

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
xmas and good friday.

Good Friday? How quaint.

Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

GF always was and I suppose still is a public holiday in the UK. So
that may be the reason why it is in the old Commonwealth.

Yes, must be. I thought it was mainly a Catholic thing, but apparently
not.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Graham

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

People in this area have to hire private trash pickup.  No city or
county trash pickup.  The major outfits (Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine, etc.) do *not* pick up on holidays.  A local
outfit does pick up on holidays and charges a hell of a lot less for the
service.  Guess which one I use? ;)
Jill

This city has a set schedule and the only holidays that change it are
xmas and good friday.

Good Friday? How quaint.

Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
deemed that more useful.

[Dave Smith]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
deemed that more useful.

When I was a kid we had Easter vacation. We had Good Friday off and
working people had Easter Monday free. Students had the whole week off.
Somewhere along they way it changed. Easter is a long weekend and
students now have a March break instead of Easter.

When I was working we had a 7 day a week operation and worked different
shifts but not necessarily 24/7. Our satellite office did not work
holidays but I offered to cover Easter. I am not religious so Good
Friday and Easter meant nothing to me other than getting some chocolate.
I would have gladly covered those days for double time and a half.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
deemed that more useful.

When I was a kid we had Easter vacation. We had Good Friday off and
working people had Easter Monday free. Students had the whole week off.
Somewhere along they way it changed. Easter is a long weekend and
students now have a March break instead of Easter.

When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
stopped calling it that.

Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.

Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
but pretty much everything else is open.

[Dave Smith]

Post by Cindy Hamilton
When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
stopped calling it that.
Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.
Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
but pretty much everything else is open.

I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when friends and
family could get together.


For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
lawn on Sundays. I was really surprised to see them working on Good
Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

[Graham]

Post by Dave Smith

When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it.  At
some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
stopped calling it that.
Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing.  Wikipedia
tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
seen it.  Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.
Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
prime retailing opportunities.  Banks and the government are closed,
but pretty much everything else is open.

I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.
We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

Not here where the holiday originated!
I agree with the idea that shops should close on public holidays,
especially Family Day!!

[Graham]

Post by Graham

Post by Dave Smith

When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it.  At
some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
stopped calling it that.
Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing.  Wikipedia
tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
seen it.  Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.
Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
prime retailing opportunities.  Banks and the government are closed,
but pretty much everything else is open.

I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.
We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and
I was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

Not here where the holiday originated!
I agree with the idea that shops should close on public holidays,
especially Family Day!!

It was so named because the Premier of Alberta felt guilty about his
failure as a father when his son was caught drug-dealing.
He was a failure as a Premier too but that's another story.

[Dave Smith]

Post by Graham

Post by Dave Smith
We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and
I was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.

Not here where the holiday originated!
I agree with the idea that shops should close on public holidays,
especially Family Day!!

I have to confess that the cynic in me expected that Family Day would be
a day when the moms left the kids at home to go shopping.

[Ed P]

Post by Dave Smith
I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.
We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.
If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when  friends and
family could get together.

YES! Time with family, dinner at grandma's, picnic with the cousins,
etc. Those days are gone.

Supermarket used to be closed but now it is the busiest day of the week.

We did our best. Saturday was the day for work around the house
projects but my wife and I tried to keep Sunday open for ourselves to
enjoy, be it going for a ride someplace or visiting friends.

In some areas, retailers would close at noon on Wednesday too. That
would be the small family shops, not Target and such that did not exist
yet.

[Dave Smith]

Post by Dave Smith
If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when
everything was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because
stores are open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when
friends and family could get together.

YES!  Time with family, dinner at grandma's, picnic with the cousins,
etc.  Those days are gone.
Supermarket used to be closed but now it is the busiest day of the week.
We did our best.  Saturday was the day for work around the house
projects but my wife and I tried to keep Sunday open for ourselves to
enjoy, be it going for a ride someplace or visiting friends.
In some areas, retailers would close at noon on Wednesday too. That
would be the small family shops, not Target and such that did not exist
yet.

We were not allowed to work on Sundays, and my parents were not
religious. Sunday was usually spent visiting my grandparents or aunts
and uncles. Occasionally we would drive to my father's home town about
40 miles away.

I don't remember exactly when we started opening. It was a hot issue. We
live close to the US border and NY allowed Sunday opening so people from
southern Ontario were flocking over the border to shop. There were
definitely better prices and selection over there and the exchange rate
was low. Retailers complained that they were losing too much business to
the Americans so the allowed Sunday shopping. Stores and malls are
pretty busy on Sundays. It's all the people who would have come in the
middle of the week so there is basically the same costs for staff and
utilities each day for seven days to generate the same sales they used
to get in 6.

[Andy Gerald]

We live close to the US border

Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

[D]

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too goddamn
cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Are you sure? What about the esquimaux?

[͡° ͜ʖ ͡°]

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

 >
 >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

 >
 >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

[Andy Gerald]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

 >
 >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

[D]

Post by Andy Gerald

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

 >
 >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

Touché! Point Andy!

[Graham]

Post by Andy Gerald

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

  >
  >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

You are a prick!

[Bruce]

Post by Graham

Post by Andy Gerald

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

  >
  >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

You are a prick!

I remember a summer in southern (= extra grey and rainy) Tasmania with
8 sunny days.

[Andy Gerald]

Post by Graham

Post by Andy Gerald

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

  >
  >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

 >
I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

You are a prick!

Pricks are stuck up cunts.

[gm]

Post by Graham

Post by Andy Gerald

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

  >
  >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

I love summer in Canada, it's my favorite day of the year.

You are a prick!

Let us "get down to cases", Dear LIBTARD Graham...

CanaDUH SUCKS - without the RICH United States as your southern
neighbor, you'd just be "Rwanda with polar bears"...

AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...........!!!!!!!!!!!!

😎


--
GM

--

[Dave Smith]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°

Post by Hank Rogers

Post by Andy Gerald

We live close to the US border

 >
 >
Just like 90% of you Canuks do.

But that's not because they want to be close to us. It's just too
goddamn cold if they go farther north, away from the border.

Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

When was the last time you were in Canada?

We are the banana belt compared to Greenland.

[songbird]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) <***@mine.myself> wrote:
...

Post by ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
Canaduh is pretty much a frozen shit hole.

so is your brain.


songbird

[Ed P]

Post by Dave Smith
We were not allowed to work on Sundays, and my parents were not
religious. Sunday was usually spent visiting my grandparents or aunts
and uncles. Occasionally we would drive to my father's home town about
40 miles away.
I don't remember exactly when we started opening. It was a hot issue. We
live close to the US border and NY allowed Sunday opening so people from
southern Ontario were flocking over the border to shop.  There were
definitely better prices and selection over there and the exchange rate
was low. Retailers complained that they were losing too much business to
the Americans so the allowed Sunday shopping. Stores and malls are
pretty busy on Sundays. It's all the people who would have come in the
middle of the week so there is basically the same costs for staff and
utilities each day for seven days to generate the same sales they used
to get in 6.

When I lived in Philadelphia, it was just a couple of miles to the
bridge to New Jersey. Sunday was very busy at the Pennsaulken Mart just
the other side. You could buy liquor too!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Ed P

Post by Dave Smith
I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.
We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.
If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when  friends and
family could get together.

YES! Time with family, dinner at grandma's, picnic with the cousins,
etc. Those days are gone.

If people wanted that, they'd have it. Millions of people get
Saturday and Sunday off, yet inexplicably do not spent time as
you indicated.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Cindy Hamilton
When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
stopped calling it that.
Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.
Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
but pretty much everything else is open.

I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

You forget that the only real religion in the U.S. is money. We
don't actually have statutory holidays. You can get a Chinese
restaurant meal on Christmas.

People with good jobs get paid holidays. People with crappy jobs
don't. They also don't get paid sick days or vacation.

Ah, here you go:

The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) does not require payment for time
not worked, such as vacations or holidays (federal or otherwise). These
benefits are generally a matter of agreement between an employer and an
employee (or the employee's representative).
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/holiday

Post by Dave Smith
We observed Family Day on Monday. That is a relatively new holiday and I
was surprised to see that just about everything was closed including
grocery stores. Even my local corner coffee shop was closed.
If I ran the world we would be back to the Blue Law Days when everything
was closed on Sunday. No one makes any more money because stores are
open one more day. Sunday used to be a common day off when friends and
family could get together.

I wouldn't. "Sunday" implies "Christianity". Can Jews take Saturday
instead? Can Muslims have Friday? Can pagans have the Esbats?

Do you want hospitals closed on Sundays? Police? Fire?

You won't get any support from me for getting together with friends
and family. I see the only person who matters all the time.

Post by Dave Smith
For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
lawn on Sundays. I was really surprised to see them working on Good
Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

Good Friday is pretty High Church.

[Hank Rogers]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Dave Smith

Post by Cindy Hamilton
When I was a kid, we got Good Friday off and no bones about it. At
some later point, someone said, "What about the Jews?" and they
stopped calling it that.
Like Boxing Day, Easter Monday is not much of a thing. Wikipedia
tells me it's observed in some cities in Michigan, but I've never
seen it. Perhaps in old Hamtramck, when it was majority Polish.
Except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, most holidays are seen as
prime retailing opportunities. Banks and the government are closed,
but pretty much everything else is open.

I don't really see much the point of paid holidays if they are just
going to be retail sale events. Banks, major businesses and government
offices shut down for the day and everyone goes out shopping, so the
lowest paid sector of the economy end up having to go to work. Nuts to
that. If it is a statutory holiday everyone should have the day off.

You forget that the only real religion in the U.S. is money.

Indeed, we are a nation founded by the Ferengi peoples from a distant
part of the universe.

You should have noticed that we recently elected a new Grand Nagus to
preside over the earth colony. And, always remember to obey the rules of
acquisition, but nothing else.

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by Dave Smith
For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
lawn on Sundays. I was really surprised to see them working on Good
Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

Easter is the holiest day, not Good Friday.

[Bruce]

Post by Dave Smith
For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
lawn on Sundays.

As you should. No mowing on Sundays for strict Dutch Protestants!
Also, no bicycle riding! And no ice cream eating! Nothing that
distracts from worshipping the Lord!

These people have their own political party in the Netherlands. They
always get a few % of the vote. This is how the leader celebrates
Christmas. It was a hell of a party last year.

Post by Dave Smith
I was really surprised to see them working on Good
Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

It's entirely possible that Dutch Protestants have historically
disagreed about this matter and have, therefore, split up into 12
different Protestant denominations.

[Dave Smith]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Dave Smith
For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
lawn on Sundays.  I was really surprised to see them working on Good
Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

Easter is the holiest day, not Good Friday.

Friday is the day their main guy was crucified and died and people are
supposed to grieve. Easter is the day he resurrected and people rejoice.
The devout crowd takes it a little more seriously than you do.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:14:20 -0500, Dave Smith

Post by Dave Smith

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Dave Smith
For a number of years there was a flower shipping business next to us.
There were two Dutch families and being some variation of Dutch Reform
we never saw them outside on Sundays. I almost felt guilty mowing the
lawn on Sundays.  I was really surprised to see them working on Good
Friday. Easter weekend is a busy time for flower sales. I had thought
that Good Friday was the holiest of Christian holidays. It seemed really
strange they would be so strict about working in Sunday but that they
would be labouring on the day their lord was crucified.

Easter is the holiest day, not Good Friday.

Friday is the day their main guy was crucified and died and people are
supposed to grieve. Easter is the day he resurrected and people rejoice.
The devout crowd takes it a little more seriously than you do.

This is how it goes. "I'm more devout than you! We're the true
believers! I'm starting a new church!"

[Andy Gerald]

Post by Dave Smith
I would have gladly covered those days for double time and a half.

You're my hero.

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Bruce
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:12:12 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

Post by Cindy Hamilton
Good Friday? How quaint.

Good Friday's big in Australia too. Not sure about the mainland, but
in Tasmania the two biggest holidays of the year were/are Christmas
Day and Good Friday. Good Friday isn't even a holiday in the
Netherlands.

A lot of school systems fold it into their "spring break". For
a while the company I worked for had a Catholic CEO who made it
a holiday for us. His successor stopped that and gave it to us
around one of the summer holidays (late May, early July, or
early September), resulting in a three-day weekend. Most people
deemed that more useful.

The company I worked for gave us Good Friday off. Then we
were sold and G. F. was taken away but the Friday after
Thanksgiving was added giving workers a 4-day holiday. If
I was working the T-F-S shift, day or night, I'd take Saturday
off and it would turn it into a two weeks off.

[Bruce]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Ed P
trash taken out,

I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

Does that mean Trump or Musk will fire them?

[ItsJoanNotJoAnn]

Post by Bruce

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

Does that mean Trump or Musk will fire them?

They're not federal employees, so their jobs are safe.

[Bruce]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by Bruce

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
Trash and recycle guys are all city employees and the city
honors all federal holidays.

Does that mean Trump or Musk will fire them?

They're not federal employees, so their jobs are safe.

Oh,ok.

[Ed P]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday. They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day. The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays. We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

I don't get it. Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have to
work Saturday. I don't know if they get paid extra for it but the work
is the same.

So, they get a 3 day holiday weekend but followed by a 1 day for makeup.

I was impressed with my neighbors today. First time no one on the
street put the bins out on a holiday schedule.

[Jill McQuown]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

I don't get it.  Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have to
work Saturday.  I don't know if they get paid extra for it but the work
is the same.

I tried several different trash pickup services over the years and they
always promised next day after a holiday pickup but they never did show
up the next day. Or even necessarily that week. Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine Trash Services.

I finally found a local service that not only picks up on holidays but
charges less for their weekly service.

It's not that I begrudge anyone taking a holiday off. Take the day off!
But don't promise you'll pick up a day later and still charge me for
*not* doing it. Meanwhile, the trash piles up and you don't show up
until the next week maybe? I am so happy I found a locally based
service trash pickup service that actually does what they say they will do.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:59:22 -0500, Jill McQuown

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by Cindy Hamilton
My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

I don't get it.  Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have to
work Saturday.  I don't know if they get paid extra for it but the work
is the same.

I tried several different trash pickup services over the years and they
always promised next day after a holiday pickup but they never did show
up the next day. Or even necessarily that week. Republic Waste, Waste
Management, Sunshine Trash Services.
I finally found a local service that not only picks up on holidays but
charges less for their weekly service.

This is a dumb, inefficient and polluting system. That's unbridled
capitalism for ya!

[Carol]

Post by Jill McQuown

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
I did that Sunday night and forgot Monday was a federal,
state, and local holiday.  They picked up trash today.

My trash gets picked up on MLK Day, Presidents' Day, Juneteenth
(I'm suprised Trump is keeping that one), and Veterans' Day.  The
local municipality contracts with a private hauler, which doesn't
feel the need to observe those federal holidays.  We don't have
any state holidays that aren't also federal holidays.

I don't get it.  Ours is delayed a day and the pickup people have
to work Saturday.  I don't know if they get paid extra for it but
the work is the same.

I tried several different trash pickup services over the years and
they always promised next day after a holiday pickup but they never
did show up the next day. Or even necessarily that week. Republic
Waste, Waste Management, Sunshine Trash Services.
I finally found a local service that not only picks up on holidays
but charges less for their weekly service.
It's not that I begrudge anyone taking a holiday off. Take the day
off! But don't promise you'll pick up a day later and still charge
me for not doing it. Meanwhile, the trash piles up and you don't
show up until the next week maybe? I am so happy I found a locally
based service trash pickup service that actually does what they say
they will do.
Jill

We get rescheduled but not sure just when yet. 12 inches snow here and
still falling but just about over. The 'official' take for southside
is at ORF (Norfolk International Airport) but it's 25 miles from me.
It shows 10 inches I think but local reports show that's just where the
line predictions went from 10 to 12 inches closer to the ocean.

So, trash days are all messed up. We'll miss Wed-Friday (Friday too
cold for any real meltoff). Hard freezes last night and tonight.

Best is folks calling heating companies who are ripping off people who
didn't know heatpumps go to AUX mode at these temps and there's nothing
wrong or fixable about it. Meantime, toasty here with the fireplace.

[Dave Smith]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by f***@sdf.org
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.
5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery
and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
neighbors and my trash cans and put them away.  Picked
up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
maple tree that falls in my yard.  I think you have me
beat on being industrious.

I didn't get moving until about 11:30 when I went to the library to
return a whack of books and three videos. I stopped for coffee and then
came back to pick up my wife to run some errands. We scooted over to
Niagara Falls to get some things at Walmart, deposit some cheques at the
bank and then to Costco. One the way home we stopped at the produce
store to get some cherry tomatoes and half dozen butter tarts.

Supper tonight will be London Broils, but the local variation which is a
spiral of tenderized beef wrapped around a sausage meat filling.

[f***@sdf.org]

Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn

Post by f***@sdf.org
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.
5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery
and i made some refried beans to freeze while the canner
was processing. next on the canning todo list is approximately
the same amount of plain, unseasoned chicken stock.

You've been quite busy whereas today I rounded up my
neighbors and my trash cans and put them away. Picked
up a bunch of small fallen limbs from another neighbors
maple tree that falls in my yard. I think you have me
beat on being industrious.

since we're posting diaries it appears; i made the stock on
sunday. :)

friday after work, RSV jab then went out for a fish fry for
vday with my wife. i woke up sore from the jab saturday and
decided to do exactly nothing all day. binged watched netflix
and diced a knob of ginger for bok choy chix. sunday was up and
in the kitchen at 5:00am. made the mirpoix, made zuppa toscana,
made refried beans and froze them. sat down only to eat dinner
and went to bet at 8:00pm.

during the week i work, eat, do a bit of can't put it off
maintenance such as clean snow and ice of the driveway, and
relax an hour before going to bed. my wife makes my dinner which
if it isn't salad, it's leftovers. i'm up at 4:45am and go to
bed by 8:30pm.

i have way too much pent up energy, i need to be outside doing
outside things around the house. the older i get the more i hate
winter.

[Janet]

In article <***@ma.sdf.org>, ***@sdf.org
says...

Post by f***@sdf.org
20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
strained,

What you made is vegetable stock. You threw away the
mirepoix.

Mirepoix is onions/ celery/carrots slowly cooked down
over gentle heat with a little oil or butter. No water or
liquid. The end product is the vegetables.

Janet UK

[f***@sdf.org]

Post by Janet
says...

Post by f***@sdf.org
20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
strained,

What you made is vegetable stock. You threw away the
mirepoix.

oi. i failed to write Mirepoix Stock in the subject. fixed it.
:)

[Jill McQuown]

Post by f***@sdf.org
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27337>
26 pints of mirepoix plus 1/4 pint to see if it would seal.
which it did.
5 pounds diced sweet onions
2 1/2 pounds diced carrots
2 1/2 pounds diced celery
20 quart stock pot. veggies and cold water added to fill 1 inch
from the top. after bringing it to a simmer it took 1 hour for
the vegetables to "cook down" or "reduce" (there has to be a
proper culinary term for that and i can't find it) and give up
their juices. let it simmer another 30 minutes. removed solids,
strained, hot filled jars, processed for 30 minutes in the
pressure canner plus heat up and cool down. my canner holds 18
regular mouth pints so two batches.

Sounds like you made and canned vegetable stock.

Jill