Sad situation, these people need out help

[Ed P]

I just learned about this today. Alcohol consumption overall is down,
but many wine/grape growers are getting hit hard. Once source said in
2023 it wad down 3.5 billion bottle world wine.

Vines are being pull out of the ground to reduce production.

We have to help these people. I feel a moral obligation to do my best
to keep this much needed business floating.

This cites California but Australia, France. is doing the same.

https://www.winebusiness.com/news/article/284711

Vineyard removals have been in the news lately, with stories in the San
Francisco Chronicle, Lodi News-Sentinel and Ag Alert. Grapevines are
getting ripped out and crushed up into a giant wad of metal-infused
wood. It's a sign of hard times for California's wine industry.

It's also not nearly enough, says Jeff Bitter, president of Allied Grape
Growers.

Bitter said in January at the Unified Wine & Grape Symposium in
Sacramento that California growers need to rip out 50,000 acres of vines
this year to bring the state back into equilibrium. Some of that is
happening. But it's not going to happen in time to prevent another crop
in 2024 that will be much bigger than the market needs.

"As I said from the stage, I don't have any expectation that we're going
to pull out what we should pull out," Bitter told WineBusiness. "The
reaction just isn't going to be that quick. They're being torn out, but
not enough. In the Central Valley, the wineries are as aggressive as
anybody in removing vineyards. We've seen a lot of winery-owned
vineyards that have been removed or are for sale. That's a telltale sign."

[Bruce]

Post by Ed P
I just learned about this today. Alcohol consumption overall is down,
but many wine/grape growers are getting hit hard. Once source said in
2023 it wad down 3.5 billion bottle world wine.
Vines are being pull out of the ground to reduce production.
We have to help these people. I feel a moral obligation to do my best
to keep this much needed business floating.
This cites California but Australia, France. is doing the same.
https://www.winebusiness.com/news/article/284711

Well noted. I've always wanted to support a good cause.

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[BryanGSimmons]

I just learned about this today.  Alcohol consumption overall is down,
but many wine/grape growers are getting hit hard.  Once source said in
2023 it wad down 3.5 billion bottle world wine.
Vines are being pull out of the ground to reduce production.
We have to help these people.  I feel a moral obligation to do my best
to keep this much needed business floating.
This cites California but Australia, France. is doing the same.
https://www.winebusiness.com/news/article/284711
Vineyard removals have been in the news lately, with stories in the San
Francisco Chronicle, Lodi News-Sentinel and Ag Alert. Grapevines are
getting ripped out and crushed up into a giant wad of metal-infused
wood. It's a sign of hard times for California's wine industry.
It's also not nearly enough, says Jeff Bitter, president of Allied Grape
Growers.
Bitter said in January at the Unified Wine & Grape Symposium in
Sacramento that California growers need to rip out 50,000 acres of vines
this year to bring the state back into equilibrium. Some of that is
happening. But it's not going to happen in time to prevent another crop
in 2024 that will be much bigger than the market needs.
"As I said from the stage, I don't have any expectation that we're going
to pull out what we should pull out," Bitter told WineBusiness. "The
reaction just isn't going to be that quick. They're being torn out, but
not enough. In the Central Valley, the wineries are as aggressive as
anybody in removing vineyards. We've seen a lot of winery-owned
vineyards that have been removed or are for sale. That's a telltale sign."

Are wine grapes not desirable for eating? They have to be sweet, or
they couldn't produce alcohol.

[Hank Rogers]

I just learned about this today.  Alcohol consumption overall is
down, but many wine/grape growers are getting hit hard.  Once source
said in 2023 it wad down 3.5 billion bottle world wine.
Vines are being pull out of the ground to reduce production.
We have to help these people.  I feel a moral obligation to do my
best to keep this much needed business floating.
This cites California but Australia, France. is doing the same.
https://www.winebusiness.com/news/article/284711
Vineyard removals have been in the news lately, with stories in the
San Francisco Chronicle, Lodi News-Sentinel and Ag Alert. Grapevines
are getting ripped out and crushed up into a giant wad of
metal-infused wood. It's a sign of hard times for California's wine
industry.
It's also not nearly enough, says Jeff Bitter, president of Allied
Grape Growers.
Bitter said in January at the Unified Wine & Grape Symposium in
Sacramento that California growers need to rip out 50,000 acres of
vines this year to bring the state back into equilibrium. Some of that
is happening. But it's not going to happen in time to prevent another
crop in 2024 that will be much bigger than the market needs.
"As I said from the stage, I don't have any expectation that we're
going to pull out what we should pull out," Bitter told WineBusiness.
"The reaction just isn't going to be that quick. They're being torn
out, but not enough. In the Central Valley, the wineries are as
aggressive as anybody in removing vineyards. We've seen a lot of
winery-owned vineyards that have been removed or are for sale. That's
a telltale sign."

Are wine grapes not desirable for eating?  They have to be sweet, or
they couldn't produce alcohol.

Sounds like a question for your artificial friend.

[Ed P]

I just learned about this today.  Alcohol consumption overall is down,
but many wine/grape growers are getting hit hard.  Once source said in
2023 it wad down 3.5 billion bottle world wine.
Vines are being pull out of the ground to reduce production.
We have to help these people.  I feel a moral obligation to do my best
to keep this much needed business floating.
This cites California but Australia, France. is doing the same.
https://www.winebusiness.com/news/article/284711
Vineyard removals have been in the news lately, with stories in the
San Francisco Chronicle, Lodi News-Sentinel and Ag Alert. Grapevines
are getting ripped out and crushed up into a giant wad of metal-
infused wood. It's a sign of hard times for California's wine industry.
It's also not nearly enough, says Jeff Bitter, president of Allied
Grape Growers.
Bitter said in January at the Unified Wine & Grape Symposium in
Sacramento that California growers need to rip out 50,000 acres of
vines this year to bring the state back into equilibrium. Some of that
is happening. But it's not going to happen in time to prevent another
crop in 2024 that will be much bigger than the market needs.
"As I said from the stage, I don't have any expectation that we're
going to pull out what we should pull out," Bitter told WineBusiness.
"The reaction just isn't going to be that quick. They're being torn
out, but not enough. In the Central Valley, the wineries are as
aggressive as anybody in removing vineyards. We've seen a lot of
winery-owned vineyards that have been removed or are for sale. That's
a telltale sign."

Are wine grapes not desirable for eating?  They have to be sweet, or
they couldn't produce alcohol.

Never tried them myself. Thicker skins, clusters of seeds. I don't
think they would have the appeal of typical seedless table grapes.

[Bruce]

Post by Ed P

Are wine grapes not desirable for eating?  They have to be sweet, or
they couldn't produce alcohol.

Never tried them myself. Thicker skins, clusters of seeds. I don't
think they would have the appeal of typical seedless table grapes.

How do seedless grapes procreate?

[Ed P]

Post by Bruce

Post by Ed P

Are wine grapes not desirable for eating?  They have to be sweet, or
they couldn't produce alcohol.

Never tried them myself. Thicker skins, clusters of seeds. I don't
think they would have the appeal of typical seedless table grapes.

How do seedless grapes procreate?

They are man made from high fructose corn syrup, guar gum, carrageenan,
red dye #5. BHA, BHT. .

[Bruce]

Post by Ed P

Post by Bruce

Post by Ed P

Are wine grapes not desirable for eating?  They have to be sweet, or
they couldn't produce alcohol.

Never tried them myself. Thicker skins, clusters of seeds. I don't
think they would have the appeal of typical seedless table grapes.

How do seedless grapes procreate?

They are man made from high fructose corn syrup, guar gum, carrageenan,
red dye #5. BHA, BHT. .

I knew it!