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f***@sdf.org
2025-02-05 12:50:19 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
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ItsJoanNotJoAnn
2025-02-05 17:56:43 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
f***@sdf.org
2025-02-06 16:47:34 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
i decided to roast the short ribs before making the broth. will
post photos.
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f***@sdf.org
2025-02-10 13:56:04 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
we were very satisfied how it turned it out. read quite a few
recipes and got one from an internet friend in Ukraine. got it
just about right right out of the gate. biggest thing is to use
fresh beets. i live in a rural community and went to four
different stores looking for fresh beets and came home with a
box of pre-cooked Love beets. damnit. while those are ok for a snack,
they don't have enough flavor to stand out in a soup unless they
are the only ingredient. also, will add a bit more garlic next
time.

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broth ingredients;
1.5 lbs beef short ribs (4 pieces)
2 stalks celery, no leaves, 2 inch pieces
1 carrot, 2 inch pieces
half onion, chopped
10 peppercorns
2 bay leaves
3 tbs tomato paste
4 qts water
1 tsp salt

bones down, coat short ribs with nice layer of tomato paste and
roast at 450F for 30-40 minutes until satisfactorily browned. add
roasted ribs and rest of ingredients to water and simmer for 4
hours. reserve meat and shred, discard rest of solids, strain.
return broth to pot and season with salt.

soup ingredients:
2 medium beets, peeled and grated (no Love beets ever again grr)
3 medium potatoes, diced
2 medium carrots, grated
1 large onion sliced
1/2 head cabbage fine chopped (16oz container very tightly packed)
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 bay leaf
3 tbs tomato paste
shredded short rib meat
2 tsp lemon juice
2 tbs grapeseed oil


according to Ukrainian internet friend, adding the ingredients in
this order is the traditional way of doing it;

add meat, potatoes, beets, bay leaf to broth and simmer to nearly
finished. we added the beets around when the potatoes were half
done since they were pre-cooked.

brown tomato paste in oil, add onion and carrots, saute until
caramelized, add garlic saute a couple more minutes.

when potatoes and beets are done, add sauteed veggies and
cabbage and cook 10-15 minutes until cabbage is done.

remove bay leaf and add lemon juice. serve with a dollop of sour
cream and parsley. most recipes i saw called for dill, neither my
wife or are fond of it and used parsley instead.


photos;

roasted short ribs:
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27309>

soup ingredients (i used half that cabbage);
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27311>

plated soup;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27310>



only changes we'll make are use fresh beets and double the
garlic. this is a hearty flavorful recipe. :)
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ItsJoanNotJoAnn
2025-02-10 15:54:42 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
we were very satisfied how it turned it out. read quite a few
photos;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27309>
soup ingredients (i used half that cabbage);
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27311>
plated soup;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27310>
only changes we'll make are use fresh beets and double the
garlic. this is a hearty flavorful recipe. :)
Thanks for the report of your results and it looks
great!!

I don't know anything about the season of beets, but
perhaps the only place you might find them fresh would
be at a farmers market??
Janet
2025-02-10 22:19:04 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
we were very satisfied how it turned it out. read quite a few
photos;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27309>
soup ingredients (i used half that cabbage);
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27311>
plated soup;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27310>
only changes we'll make are use fresh beets and double the
garlic. this is a hearty flavorful recipe. :)
Thanks for the report of your results and it looks
great!!
I don't know anything about the season of beets, but
perhaps the only place you might find them fresh would
be at a farmers market??
Fresh raw beets are available all year round in
supermarkets here

Janet UK
f***@sdf.org
2025-02-11 14:28:03 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
we were very satisfied how it turned it out. read quite a few
photos;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27309>
soup ingredients (i used half that cabbage);
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27311>
plated soup;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27310>
only changes we'll make are use fresh beets and double the
garlic. this is a hearty flavorful recipe. :)
Thanks for the report of your results and it looks
great!!
thanks for the compliments. it's as good as it looks and
heartier than i expected.

we're finishing the two servings that are left tonight. i have
a feeling this is one of those recipes that tastes better after
it sits a couple days in the fridge. like lasagna for example.
Post by ItsJoanNotJoAnn
I don't know anything about the season of beets, but
perhaps the only place you might find them fresh would
be at a farmers market??
the farmers market we shop at was closed by the time of the
evening i was out shopping, else i would have checked there.
next time i want beets when they're out of season, i'll get
them in Rochester or Buffalo at much larger stores with much
greater variety of products. i wasn't willing to make a 2 hour
round trip for a couple beets, especially since i had just
driven home from work in Rochester. lol.
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Carol
2025-02-10 21:26:19 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
we were very satisfied how it turned it out. read quite a few
recipes and got one from an internet friend in Ukraine. got it
just about right right out of the gate. biggest thing is to use
fresh beets. i live in a rural community and went to four
different stores looking for fresh beets and came home with a
box of pre-cooked Love beets. damnit. while those are ok for a snack,
they don't have enough flavor to stand out in a soup unless they
are the only ingredient. also, will add a bit more garlic next
time.
-----------------------
broth ingredients;
1.5 lbs beef short ribs (4 pieces)
2 stalks celery, no leaves, 2 inch pieces
1 carrot, 2 inch pieces
half onion, chopped
10 peppercorns
2 bay leaves
3 tbs tomato paste
4 qts water
1 tsp salt
bones down, coat short ribs with nice layer of tomato paste and
roast at 450F for 30-40 minutes until satisfactorily browned. add
roasted ribs and rest of ingredients to water and simmer for 4
hours. reserve meat and shred, discard rest of solids, strain.
return broth to pot and season with salt.
2 medium beets, peeled and grated (no Love beets ever again grr)
3 medium potatoes, diced
2 medium carrots, grated
1 large onion sliced
1/2 head cabbage fine chopped (16oz container very tightly packed)
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 bay leaf
3 tbs tomato paste
shredded short rib meat
2 tsp lemon juice
2 tbs grapeseed oil
according to Ukrainian internet friend, adding the ingredients in
this order is the traditional way of doing it;
add meat, potatoes, beets, bay leaf to broth and simmer to nearly
finished. we added the beets around when the potatoes were half
done since they were pre-cooked.
brown tomato paste in oil, add onion and carrots, saute until
caramelized, add garlic saute a couple more minutes.
when potatoes and beets are done, add sauteed veggies and
cabbage and cook 10-15 minutes until cabbage is done.
remove bay leaf and add lemon juice. serve with a dollop of sour
cream and parsley. most recipes i saw called for dill, neither my
wife or are fond of it and used parsley instead.
photos;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27309>
soup ingredients (i used half that cabbage);
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27311>
plated soup;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27310>
only changes we'll make are use fresh beets and double the
garlic. this is a hearty flavorful recipe. :)
Very nice looking!
Jill McQuown
2025-02-10 22:34:09 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
Report back with your results.
we were very satisfied how it turned it out. read quite a few
recipes and got one from an internet friend in Ukraine. got it
just about right right out of the gate. biggest thing is to use
fresh beets. i live in a rural community and went to four
different stores looking for fresh beets and came home with a
box of pre-cooked Love beets. damnit. while those are ok for a snack,
they don't have enough flavor to stand out in a soup unless they
are the only ingredient. also, will add a bit more garlic next
time.
-----------------------
broth ingredients;
1.5 lbs beef short ribs (4 pieces)
2 stalks celery, no leaves, 2 inch pieces
1 carrot, 2 inch pieces
half onion, chopped
10 peppercorns
2 bay leaves
3 tbs tomato paste
4 qts water
1 tsp salt
bones down, coat short ribs with nice layer of tomato paste and
roast at 450F for 30-40 minutes until satisfactorily browned. add
roasted ribs and rest of ingredients to water and simmer for 4
hours. reserve meat and shred, discard rest of solids, strain.
return broth to pot and season with salt.
2 medium beets, peeled and grated (no Love beets ever again grr)
3 medium potatoes, diced
2 medium carrots, grated
1 large onion sliced
1/2 head cabbage fine chopped (16oz container very tightly packed)
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 bay leaf
3 tbs tomato paste
shredded short rib meat
2 tsp lemon juice
2 tbs grapeseed oil
according to Ukrainian internet friend, adding the ingredients in
this order is the traditional way of doing it;
add meat, potatoes, beets, bay leaf to broth and simmer to nearly
finished. we added the beets around when the potatoes were half
done since they were pre-cooked.
brown tomato paste in oil, add onion and carrots, saute until
caramelized, add garlic saute a couple more minutes.
when potatoes and beets are done, add sauteed veggies and
cabbage and cook 10-15 minutes until cabbage is done.
remove bay leaf and add lemon juice. serve with a dollop of sour
cream and parsley. most recipes i saw called for dill, neither my
wife or are fond of it and used parsley instead.
photos;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27309>
soup ingredients (i used half that cabbage);
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27311>
plated soup;
<https://wm.sdf.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1029&pid=27310>
only changes we'll make are use fresh beets and double the
garlic. this is a hearty flavorful recipe. :)
It looks excellent! Too bad I don't like beets.

Jill
Spanks
2025-02-08 04:43:54 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
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Hope yours came out tasty! Share some photos if you can.

I made Borscht for the 1st time back in '23. Made a small clip of the result
- which was quite yummy 😋🪆


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2025-02-08 20:37:46 UTC
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am making borscht for the first time this weekend. picked up
some short ribs for it last night. when i make beef stock for
anything including canning it, i brush some tomato paste on the
beef product and roast it at 450F-sh until browned to
satisfaction. should i do the same for borscht?
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Hope yours came out tasty! Share some photos if you can.

I made Borscht for the 1st time back in '23. Made a small clip of the result
- which was quite yummy 😋🪆


I remember you posting about this is another group back then. Great video.


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