Discussion:
Ceasar Salad; Anchovies?
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Bent Attorney Esq.
2010-03-19 23:53:04 UTC
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I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
aem
2010-03-19 23:58:23 UTC
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Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
Well of course the hairy salty fish dissolves in the dressing so the
only way those people will know it's there is from the extra depth and
dimension of flavor it produces. Count me among those who like it and
would miss it if it were absent. After having been burned several
times I now ask if it's there before ordering a Caesar salad in a
restaurant. If they don't use it, I don't order it. -aem
James Silverton
2010-03-20 00:04:51 UTC
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On Mar 19, 3:53 pm, "Bent Attorney Esq."
Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore.
They have ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've
talked to say that they don't want that hairy salty fish in
their salad. Opinions wanted here. I also drifted away from
having anchoives on my pizza. I used to like them(on pizza)
when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no longer care for
them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't had
them for years.
Well of course the hairy salty fish dissolves in the dressing
so the only way those people will know it's there is from the
extra depth and dimension of flavor it produces. Count me
among those who like it and would miss it if it were absent.
After having been burned several times I now ask if it's there
before ordering a Caesar salad in a restaurant. If they don't
use it, I don't order it. -aem
I have tube of anchovy paste that works quite well.
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pavane
2010-03-20 02:18:12 UTC
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| aem wrote on Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:58:23 -0700 (PDT):
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| > On Mar 19, 3:53 pm, "Bent Attorney Esq."
| > <***@gmail.com> wrote:
| >> I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore.
| >> They have ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've
| >> talked to say that they don't want that hairy salty fish in
| >> their salad. Opinions wanted here. I also drifted away from
| >> having anchoives on my pizza. I used to like them(on pizza)
| >> when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no longer care for
| >> them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't had
| >> them for years.
|
| > Well of course the hairy salty fish dissolves in the dressing
| > so the only way those people will know it's there is from the
| > extra depth and dimension of flavor it produces. Count me
| > among those who like it and would miss it if it were absent.
| > After having been burned several times I now ask if it's there
| > before ordering a Caesar salad in a restaurant. If they don't
| > use it, I don't order it. -aem
|
| I have tube of anchovy paste that works quite well.

Total agreement. I can buy two tins of flat anchovies; one
will be hard and bristling with bones, the other soft lovely
little fillets. The soft ones dissolve quickly into whatever
you are making; the hard ones take pounding and effort, and
sometimes never quite dissolve. I can get two different ones
from the same company. Adapting to anchovy paste is so
sensible...

pavane
bolivar
2010-03-20 02:50:00 UTC
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Post by pavane
Total agreement. I can buy two tins of flat anchovies; one
will be hard and bristling with bones, the other soft lovely
little fillets. The soft ones dissolve quickly into whatever
you are making; the hard ones take pounding and effort, and
sometimes never quite dissolve. I can get two different ones
from the same company. Adapting to anchovy paste is so
sensible...
pavane
I noticed the same thing a few years ago. Started looking at the source of
the anchovies.

The soft, mushy, really red ones were marked "product of Morrocco"

The nice filets were marked either "product of Portugal" or "... of Spain"

Just like you experience, these were the same brand. But now I haven't
seen any in a looong time from either Port. or Spain. All I see are
Morrocco

Boli
Kent
2010-03-20 09:06:23 UTC
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Post by bolivar
Post by pavane
Total agreement. I can buy two tins of flat anchovies; one
will be hard and bristling with bones, the other soft lovely
little fillets. The soft ones dissolve quickly into whatever
you are making; the hard ones take pounding and effort, and
sometimes never quite dissolve. I can get two different ones
from the same company. Adapting to anchovy paste is so
sensible...
pavane
I noticed the same thing a few years ago. Started looking at the source of
the anchovies.
The soft, mushy, really red ones were marked "product of Morrocco"
The nice filets were marked either "product of Portugal" or "... of Spain"
Just like you experience, these were the same brand. But now I haven't
seen any in a looong time from either Port. or Spain. All I see are
Morrocco
Boli
Have you tried the nonsalted frozen anchovies from Vietnam? They're
available in Chinese markets.

Kent
pavane
2010-03-20 18:25:21 UTC
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| >
| > Total agreement. I can buy two tins of flat anchovies; one
| > will be hard and bristling with bones, the other soft lovely
| > little fillets. The soft ones dissolve quickly into whatever
| > you are making; the hard ones take pounding and effort, and
| > sometimes never quite dissolve. I can get two different ones
| > from the same company. Adapting to anchovy paste is so
| > sensible...
| >
| > pavane
| >
| I noticed the same thing a few years ago. Started looking at the source of
| the anchovies.
|
| The soft, mushy, really red ones were marked "product of Morrocco"
|
| The nice filets were marked either "product of Portugal" or "... of Spain"
|
| Just like you experience, these were the same brand. But now I haven't
| seen any in a looong time from either Port. or Spain. All I see are
| Morrocco

That is a good tip, thanks.

pavane
Marcella Peek
2010-03-20 00:12:26 UTC
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Post by aem
Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
Well of course the hairy salty fish dissolves in the dressing so the
only way those people will know it's there is from the extra depth and
dimension of flavor it produces. Count me among those who like it and
would miss it if it were absent. After having been burned several
times I now ask if it's there before ordering a Caesar salad in a
restaurant. If they don't use it, I don't order it. -aem
Depends on where you get your salad. I've been to a couple of
restaurants where the caesar salad has pieces of anchovy in the
dressing. The are quite visible and pretty intense to eat if you are
not a big anchovy fan.

I think pieces is what most people object to.

marcella
sf
2010-03-20 00:18:17 UTC
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Post by aem
After having been burned several
times I now ask if it's there before ordering a Caesar salad in a
restaurant. If they don't use it, I don't order it.
If you can't watch it being made, rest assured the dressing comes from
a bottle and they have no clue.
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Kent
2010-03-20 01:43:57 UTC
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Post by sf
Post by aem
After having been burned several
times I now ask if it's there before ordering a Caesar salad in a
restaurant. If they don't use it, I don't order it.
If you can't watch it being made, rest assured the dressing comes from
a bottle and they have no clue.
I've been in very few restaurants where I thought the Caesar dressing was
canned. As you know it also contains raw egg.
sf
2010-03-20 10:34:07 UTC
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Post by Kent
Post by sf
Post by aem
After having been burned several
times I now ask if it's there before ordering a Caesar salad in a
restaurant. If they don't use it, I don't order it.
If you can't watch it being made, rest assured the dressing comes from
a bottle and they have no clue.
I've been in very few restaurants where I thought the Caesar dressing was
canned. As you know it also contains raw egg.
I certainly do know and I have been in way too many where it was
obviously from a bottle and I've paid way too much to expect a salad
dressing of such low quality.
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Kent
2010-03-20 00:03:23 UTC
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Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
People have gone bananas with this query in the past. Depending on who you
believe, anchovies were never part of the original Caesar Salad, as it
originated at the Caesar Hotel in Tijuana. Worcestershire sauce gave it a
bit of anchovy flavor. http://www.foodreference.com/html/artcaesarsalad.html

Kent
notbob
2010-03-20 00:28:33 UTC
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Post by Kent
People have gone bananas with this query in the past. Depending on who you
believe, anchovies were never part of the original Caesar Salad, as it
I believe Julia! She said she was there and later the recipe was
confirmed by the originator's daughter. No anchovies, jes
Worchestershire sauce. Good enough for me.

Now, what's this "hairy" nonsense? I love anchovies. Problem is,
they're death to gout sufferers. In fact, I have no doubt it was
eating a half dozen salt packed anchovies every night that sent me
over the line into a full blown gout attack, an affliction I'd only
seen in the movies and hadn't a clue about.

For the connoisseur, the stuff in jars or tubes or tins is just so
much crap. You want real awesome anchovies, get salt packed. Usually
from Italy and in huge 1-2lb tins packed in moist coarse salt, there
is no finer. Amazingly, these dried salt encrusted darlings have
verly little salt taste at all. Nothing like those gag-a-maggot
things in a jar of olive oil. You pluck them from the salt, wash any
salt sticking to them off under cold running water, then pull the
flesh away from their itty-bitty skeletons. Each filet is devine and
you can eat them like brisling sardines.

But, BEWARE!! If you have any genetic tendency toward gout, you're
heading for a heap o' pain. With the anti gout meds I take, I can
indulge in anchovies every great once in awhile. I had a huge Papa
John's pizza supreme --don't hold the anchovies!-- about a month ago.
Pizza ecstasy. It'll be at least another year before I'm again so
foolish. ;)

nb
Cindy Hamilton
2010-03-22 13:41:02 UTC
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Post by Kent
People have gone bananas with this query in the past. Depending on who you
believe, anchovies were never part of the original Caesar Salad, as it
I believe Julia!  She said she was there and later the recipe was
confirmed by the originator's daughter.  No anchovies, jes
Worchestershire sauce.  Good enough for me.
Now, what's this "hairy" nonsense?  
It's the bones. All of the tiny bones sticking out of anchovy fillets
remind
people of hair.

Cindy Hamilton

Steve B
2010-03-20 00:08:54 UTC
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Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
There used to be a restaurant in Las Vegas called the Copa Lounge. Oh, my!
Al Arakelian was the owner. Pete Gagliardo the cook. Al was a stately
Italian gentleman who worked at Omar Khyam's in NYC. (sp)

Al would make up your salad as he talked to you. He remembered everyone's
name, even if you just went in every ten years. He made a delicious
dressing, starting out with two anchovies. Ground them up in the wood bowl.
A little of this and that. Then added the fresh lettuce. Just perfect
every time. He'd wipe the bowl with a towel, never washing it.

The lobster fra diavlo was to die for.

I like anchovies, particularly on pizza. If I were to put them in a salad
dressing, I'd also crush them. Maybe that's the way it's done....?

Steve
sf
2010-03-20 00:20:20 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:08:54 -0700, "Steve B"
Post by Steve B
I like anchovies, particularly on pizza. If I were to put them in a salad
dressing, I'd also crush them. Maybe that's the way it's done....?
When it's done by hand, they mash the anchovies with a fork. I make
it in the food processor. Same effect with the anchovies.
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sf
2010-03-20 00:16:39 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT), "Bent Attorney Esq."
Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
I don't particularly care for anchovies. I do *not* like them on
pizza, but I tend to think of them as integral to Caesar Salad because
that's the way it has always been made for me when it was made table
side. When I make Caesar Salad at home, it doesn't matter to me if I
have anchovies on hand or not. Sometimes I add them, sometimes I
don't. I have a tube of anchovy paste right now that I use if the
mood hits.
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Omelet
2010-03-20 03:18:21 UTC
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Post by sf
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT), "Bent Attorney Esq."
Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
I don't particularly care for anchovies. I do *not* like them on
pizza, but I tend to think of them as integral to Caesar Salad because
that's the way it has always been made for me when it was made table
side. When I make Caesar Salad at home, it doesn't matter to me if I
have anchovies on hand or not. Sometimes I add them, sometimes I
don't. I have a tube of anchovy paste right now that I use if the
mood hits.
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
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koko
2010-03-20 03:50:32 UTC
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Post by Omelet
Post by sf
I don't particularly care for anchovies. I do *not* like them on
pizza, but I tend to think of them as integral to Caesar Salad because
that's the way it has always been made for me when it was made table
side. When I make Caesar Salad at home, it doesn't matter to me if I
have anchovies on hand or not. Sometimes I add them, sometimes I
don't. I have a tube of anchovy paste right now that I use if the
mood hits.
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
They freeze beautifully. I just put the remainder of the tin in a
small round Ziploc container and throw it in the freezer.
When frozen the fat congeals and separates from the fillet, easy
peasy.
I love having anchovies on demand.

koko
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Motzarella
2010-03-20 04:49:22 UTC
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Post by Omelet
Post by sf
I don't particularly care for anchovies. I do *not* like them on
pizza, but I tend to think of them as integral to Caesar Salad because
that's the way it has always been made for me when it was made table
side. When I make Caesar Salad at home, it doesn't matter to me if I
have anchovies on hand or not. Sometimes I add them, sometimes I
don't. I have a tube of anchovy paste right now that I use if the
mood hits.
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
They freeze beautifully. I just put the remainder of the tin in a
small round Ziploc container and throw it in the freezer.
When frozen the fat congeals and separates from the fillet, easy
peasy.
I love having anchovies on demand.
koko
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updated 03/19/10
Well, if you are going to keep anchovies on demand, may I suggest another
use for them. The more uses the better(I love eaten them fresh in Southern
France!

But, years ago, I discovered this lamb dish that called for anchovies
(D'Artagnon). Back in the olden days in France, there was a huge tax on
salt, thereby causing the peasants to do without; or becoming ingenious as
hell. This lamb dish comes from Gascogne. The really neat thing about it is
that you will never know the dish contained anchovies because over hours, it
just melts away, leaving a salty flavor.

Alan


* Exported from MasterCook *

Leg of Lamb Gascony-style

Recipe By :d'Artagnon
Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Dinner French
Lamb Main Dish
Meats

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 6 pound leg of lamb
8 garlic cloves -- halved
12 anchovy fillets -- packed in oil
Freshly ground black peppercorn to taste
2 TBSP D'Artagnan rendered duck fat
1 carrot -- coarsely chopped
1 onion -- coarsely chopped
1 turnip -- coarsely chopped
1 cup D'Artagnan duck demi-glace

1.Preheat the oven to 350 degrees.

2 Using a sharp knife, make sixteen small incisions in the leg of lamb and
slide the garlic halves into them. Make 12 small incisions between the fat
and the flesh of the lamb and slide the anchovies into them. The anchovies
should stay near the surface of the meat. Sprinkle with pepper.

3.Heat the duck fat over a high flame in a heavy ovenproof pan large enough
to hold the entire leg of lamb. Quickly sear the lamb on all sides, then
place the pan in the oven. Roast for 45 minutes, scatter the carrot, onion,
and turnip around the roast and cook for another 40-45 minutes for medium
rare, or more according to your preference.

4.Remove the meat from the oven and let rest in a warm place. Discard the
fat from the pan, deglaze with the duck demi-glace, and reduce by half over
a high flame. Pass the sauce through a fine sieve, pushing on the vegetables
to extract all the juices. Return the sauce to the saucepan just to heat it.
Slice the lamb and serve with the sauce on the side and with potatoes
sautéed in duck fat.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 649 Calories; 46g Fat (65.8% calories
from fat); gag Protein; go Carbohydrate; go Dietary Fiber; 191mg
Cholesterol; 385mg Sodium. Exchanges: 7 Lean Meat; 1 Vegetable; 5 Fat.

NOTES :
When a dish is called "en Gasconade" (in Gascony style), it usually means
that some garlic and anchovies are in it. Garlic has always been part of
Gascony cooking, and the anchovies appeared in the Middles Ages, when the
government imposed a high tax on salt. The ingenious Gas cons started to use
salted anchovies in their cooking, creating complex and succulent dishes
while avoiding tax.
brooklyn1
2010-03-20 14:17:40 UTC
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Post by Omelet
Post by sf
I don't particularly care for anchovies. I do *not* like them on
pizza, but I tend to think of them as integral to Caesar Salad because
that's the way it has always been made for me when it was made table
side. When I make Caesar Salad at home, it doesn't matter to me if I
have anchovies on hand or not. Sometimes I add them, sometimes I
don't. I have a tube of anchovy paste right now that I use if the
mood hits.
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
Mystery paste, anchovy chap stick. yuk

Maybe you'd like my version of caesar salad... I fill a big bowl with
fresh spinach and then dump in an entire tin of rolled anchovy and
toss... can garnish with cherry tomatoes, cuke slices, hard cooked egg
slices, but I really prefer just spinach and anchovy. I love eating
anchovy directly from the tin, flat or rolled, the rolled are a real
treat.
Omelet
2010-03-20 17:06:57 UTC
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Post by Omelet
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
Mystery paste, anchovy chap stick. yuk
Maybe you'd like my version of caesar salad... I fill a big bowl with
fresh spinach and then dump in an entire tin of rolled anchovy and
toss... can garnish with cherry tomatoes, cuke slices, hard cooked egg
slices, but I really prefer just spinach and anchovy. I love eating
anchovy directly from the tin, flat or rolled, the rolled are a real
treat.
A bit salty for me. I know some people love them just on crackers. I
prefer to macerate them and put them in a sauce or dressing.

But thanks. ;-)

I do tend to use more than the recipes call for simply because I really
do like the flavor undertone.
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koko
2010-03-20 15:41:37 UTC
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Post by koko
Post by Omelet
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
They freeze beautifully. I just put the remainder of the tin in a
small round Ziploc container and throw it in the freezer.
When frozen the fat congeals and separates from the fillet, easy
peasy.
I love having anchovies on demand.
koko
--
Well, if you are going to keep anchovies on demand, may I suggest another
use for them. The more uses the better(I love eaten them fresh in Southern
France!
But, years ago, I discovered this lamb dish that called for anchovies
(D'Artagnon). Back in the olden days in France, there was a huge tax on
salt, thereby causing the peasants to do without; or becoming ingenious as
hell. This lamb dish comes from Gascogne. The really neat thing about it is
that you will never know the dish contained anchovies because over hours, it
just melts away, leaving a salty flavor.
Alan
* Exported from MasterCook *
Leg of Lamb Gascony-style
snippage of great looking recipe.

Dang, that sounds wonderful. Thanks for the history and recipe.
I enjoy hearing about recipe origins.


koko
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Omelet
2010-03-20 05:46:28 UTC
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Post by Omelet
I really need to get some anchovy paste. I've been trying to keep
canned anchovy on hand, but I think that sometimes an entire can might
be more than I want to use. I 'spose I could freeze the rest of them.
They freeze beautifully. I just put the remainder of the tin in a
small round Ziploc container and throw it in the freezer.
When frozen the fat congeals and separates from the fillet, easy
peasy.
I love having anchovies on demand.
koko
Thanks Koko! :-)
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gloria.p
2010-03-20 00:37:52 UTC
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Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here.
If you mash the anchovies very well with the dressing, there won't be
any "hairy salty fish" in evidence, just remarkable flavor.

gloria p
bulka
2010-03-20 01:31:17 UTC
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Anchovies, of course. Yes. Dangerous raw eggs. More garlic than
just a rub on the bowl. Otherwise you are just eating lettuce, silly
rabbit. You are going to pay how much for a garnish?

Pizza is, I guess, each to his own. On the rare times I order one to-
go, with the usual bread/tomato/mozz and then my toppings of
pineapple, anchovie, sometimes spinach, I often have to tell the kid
on the phone " No dude, I'm not high. It tastes good. Just make me
my pie"

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Omelet
2010-03-20 03:15:36 UTC
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Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
Anchovies pureed into a sauce or dressing are not the same as whole
anchovies laid over a pizza. I've recently started using Anchovies more
frequently. Used properly, they don't give a "fishy" flavor to what you
use them in. They add a special richness instead that cannot be
duplicated by any other ingredient. :-)

But, tastes vary so it is up to you...
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bulka
2010-03-20 03:19:44 UTC
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It's the "fish hair".
James Silverton
2010-03-20 12:51:50 UTC
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Post by Omelet
Post by Bent Attorney Esq.
I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore.
They have ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've
talked to say that they don't want that hairy salty fish in
their salad. Opinions wanted here. I also drifted away from
having anchoives on my pizza. I used to like them(on pizza)
when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no longer care for
them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't had
them for years.
Anchovies pureed into a sauce or dressing are not the same as
whole anchovies laid over a pizza. I've recently started
using Anchovies more frequently. Used properly, they don't
give a "fishy" flavor to what you use them in. They add a
special richness instead that cannot be duplicated by any
other ingredient. :-)
But, tastes vary so it is up to you...
It's certainly true that a small amount of pureed anchovies is good in
several things. Whole anchovies on a pizza are disgusting, IMHO. It's a
bit like Thai Fish Sauce, which adds to the flavor of dishes and
dressings but is nauseating tasted by itself.
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Van
2010-03-20 14:36:58 UTC
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Post by Omelet
But, tastes vary so it is up to you...
It's certainly true that a small amount of pureed anchovies is good in
several things. Whole anchovies on a pizza are disgusting, IMHO. It's a
bit like Thai Fish Sauce, which adds to the flavor of dishes and dressings
but is nauseating tasted by itself.
Agreed. In any case, Caesar Salad isn't Caesar Salad without come form of
anchovy, IMO.

Van
Julian Vrieslander
2010-03-20 03:46:21 UTC
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Anchovies are a key ingredient in the sauce for spaghetti puttanesca. I
use the canned ones, but then soak them in water for a few minutes to
wash out the salt. Then they get crushed and cooked down in hot olive
oil before the other sauce ingredients are added. It's my favorite
pasta sauce. I've posted the recipe to this group - google and ye shall
find.

More recently, I've grown to like the anchovies imported from Spain and
Portugal. In Spain they are called boquerones (if I got the spelling
right). These are shipped refrigerated, packed in a light olive oil
and/or lemon juice. Very delicate and sweet, very unlike the salty
slimy ones we usually find in cans and jars on supermarket shelves.
Several weeks ago I posted a recipe for anchovy toasts, a classic
Spanish tapa made with boquerones. We brought a platter of these to our
neighborhood New Year's Eve party, and they were a bit hit, even among
those who normally despise anchovies.

Boquerones might be too subtle for Caesar salad, however. The more
intense Italian-style anchovies are probably a better choice.
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Julian Vrieslander
ImStillMags
2010-03-20 17:20:47 UTC
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I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad.  Not anymore.  They have
ceased to become an ingredient.  Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad.  Opinions wanted
here.  I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza.  I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them.  Maybe I should give them another try.  Haven't
had them for years.
I love anchovies. To me a Casear salad isn't one without them.
Love them in my puttanesca sauce, they add a depth of flavor you can't
get any other way. And how can you have bagna cauda without
anchovies???
Giusi
2010-03-20 17:58:03 UTC
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I used to use anchovies in my Ceasar Salad. Not anymore. They have
ceased to become an ingredient. Many people I've talked to say that
they don't want that hairy salty fish in their salad. Opinions wanted
here. I also drifted away from having anchoives on my pizza. I used
to like them(on pizza) when I was around 16 or so(go figure) but no
longer care for them. Maybe I should give them another try. Haven't
had them for years.
I love anchovies. To me a Casear salad isn't one without them.
Love them in my puttanesca sauce, they add a depth of flavor you can't
get any other way. And how can you have bagna cauda >>without anchovies???

You can't. All those things need them. Made without they are something
else and in the case of the salad, not much IMO.
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