Post by Dave Smith
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 Michael Trew
Post by Michael Trew
You might be correct about some landscapers, but I can almost guarantee
that they would NOT be using Black and Decker tools. As the contractor
that I used to work for would say, those are "home owner tools".
Landscapers and professionals would be using more expensive brands, and
commercial grade tools.
Typical professional landscapers use the least expensive tools they
can find, very often they buy used. Just because a shovel costs $100
and has a gold plated handle doesn't make it a bit better than a $10
shovel. All those yard work tools are made in the same factory in
China. No landscaping job requires brain surgery tools. Most people
who work in people's homes charge according to the price of their
posessions. Someone with an old clunker in their driveway will pay
substantially less to have their lawn mowed than the guy down the
street with a new Lexus in his driveway. When we have workmen come
here to give an estimate, whether woodworking, plumbing, electrical,
we hide our two Kubotas. Next week someone will be here to give an
estimate for power washing our house and clean our windows, both
Kubotas will be hidden in our barn.
You must be in a different universe than I do. The landscapers around
here use good tools. Most of them are hard working Dutchmen who pride
themselves in their tools and buy top quality because they know they
You're confusing lawn care with gardeners and arborists. People who
drive around in pickup trucks mowing lawns in most cases can't read or
write, most don't speak English. They don't need an education to mow
lawns and rake leaves. It's wise to not allow those guys to prune
your trees and shrubery, they'll butcher the job... most can't tell an
apple tree from a peach tree. At our last house on Lung Guyland we
had a lawn service, we had a bit more than 1/4 acre of lawn and they
charged us $25 dollars a month for mowing and edging once a week, plus
they took the clippings away. Twice a season they fertilized and put
down weed killer. A crew of four arrived and did several houses on
the block, one after the other, about twenty minutes each. Was well
worth it as it took me a 2-3 hours to do it myself... and I no longer
had to maintain a lawn mower and edger. Only the boss, Fabian, spoke
English... amongst themselves they spoke Rican Spanish.
Post by Dave Smith
Most professional auto mechanics have a canvas bag filled with crappy
tools, very few will have a set of Snap On.
Bullshit again. Most professional mechanics have good quality tools
and keep them in high quality rolling tool chests. They buy a lot of
them from the Snap-On guys that come around regularly.
Auto mechanics who work at a dealership are in most cases
supplied all tools/meters by the dealership and receive ongoing
training paid for by the dealership. Dealershps typically have a tool
crib where employees check out tools and leave a chit. Most
dealerships prefer mechanics don't bring personal tools to the job. A
lot of dealerships supply a rollaway fitted out with tools needed for
the job. On schedule measuring tools are checked for accuracy and
recalibrated/replaced as necessasary.
People who work on vehicales in their driveway are grease monkeys and
have grease monkey tools. There's not much a self-proclaimed auto
mechanic can do on late model cars anymore. They can't perform a state
auto inspection. There are still some grease monkey shops around,
they are basically capable of fixing a flat tire, replacing a broken
fan belt, and installing a muffler. Most times they repair a flat by
installing a tube and never tell the owner, then a serious high speed
They no longer work on engines and transmissions. Most of those
grease monkey shops are not licensed to tow a disabled vehical. Most
don't own a tow truck, grease monkeys in the area share the use of
someone with a flatbed.
We have a couple of grease monkey shops in town but we no longer go to
them, we're much better off going to the Toyota dealership, it's a
little longer trip but well worth saving the aggrivation from getting
a lousy do-over job from the grease monkeys... and actually going to
the grease monkeys ends up costing more to undo their errors. Grease
monkeys don't have any better auto tools than the typical home owner
who strips threads and and rounds hex nuts working on their lawnmower.
BTW, Snapon doesn't have the best tools, they're only the best for
those wanting shiney-pretty... there are much better quality socket
sets for those who don't mind a matte black finish.