On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 12:56:08 -0800 (PST), Thomas Joseph
You are describing dying in one of Hitler's camps. This is not a nice
way for anyone to go. You should know better, Thomas. What you might
enjoy is a gook stroke; something that'll put you in a coma for a few
years before you finally expire. Just think about all the weird shit
that might go through your mind.
p.s. How's Ollie?
I'll take the dreams any day but only if I can control them to some extent. Not all the way. If you can completely control your dreams they would lack zing. Gotta have something scary happen from time to time. But if it gets bad you want to be able to kick out of it. The worst thing you can have is a nightmare for eternity, one from which you can never awake.
There you go again with the death camps Jew thing. No, I was not describing one of Hitler's camps. And who says they were his camps? You talk about them as if Hitler owned them all by himself. What did he do, buy them from China? I don't care how bad the camp people had it, I can always imagine worse, and may in fact in my own way have endured worse - just cause you don't hear me griping about every little detail every little day. "How's Ollie?" Yo, ask him yourself, I'm sure he'll tell you.
Mr. Tough Guy
I would not minimize you suffering, but even you must admit the
following must have been a living nightmare:
Holocaust survivors reveal unusual Nazi cruelty
Updated 12:54 AM PT February 15, 2001
By Anastasio Philemon, World News Service, Los Angeles (WNS-LA)
Revelations continue to emerge of Hitlerite brutality against Jewish
concentration camp prisoners. Reports surfacing in recent former
prisoner associations' statements reveal a hitherto unreported fact
that during their World War 2 incarceration at Auschwitz, Ravensbruck,
and Chelmno, prisoners were routinely denied the use of toilet paper.
Further cruelty by the Nazi SS guards was demonstrated when prisoners
were forced to use sand paper in place of regular issue toilet tissue.
Those SS beasts forced me to use it, described Anna Rosenstein, a
former Auschwitz survivor. They even had Capos (selected Jewish
prisoners acting as collaborative overseers for the SS over other
prisoners) checking to make sure we used the sand paper, doing spot
checks when they suspected we werent following regulations. Some of
us were beaten, whipped, or spanked when the sand paper was found to
be unused. It was terrible!
Another prisoner described a public humiliation he was forced to
endure by a particularly sadistic SS guard. During the morning
roll-call, the SS sergeant made me step forward and loudly announce to
my fellow prisoners that I sometimes didnt use the sand paper
properly, said Saul Lewitzky, now a resident of Newport Beach,
California. I had to hold up that days issue of sand paper and shout
out that I would use it faithfully and properly. I hated them for
that. Even to this day I cant see sand paper without feeling ill,
humiliated, degraded, or break out into a fearful sweat.
One former Capo who pleaded to not be identified admitted the claims
were true. I had to oversee the use of the sand paper, I had no
choice! he lamented. If I didnt do as the SS told me, then they
would have forced me to use the sand paper too instead of the toilet
tissue which I was privileged to use. But, when the SS wasnt
watching, I sometimes slipped regular toilet tissue to my fellow
prisoners in the latrines. I probably saved many Jewish lives that
Many prisoners developed serious rashes to their private parts as a
result of the forced use of the sand paper, but when seeking medical
treatment they were often laughed at by SS medical orderlies. I could
hardly even sit down, and the daily trip to the latrine was sheer
torture, remembered Leon Aritzky, who now lives in Eilat, Israel. My
rash sometimes bled but when asking for medicine, the orderlies always
burst into laughter and cracked jokes. They sometimes even dangled
clean toilet paper in front of us which they were allowed to use,
but not us to further humiliate and torture us.
Thousands of prisoners are reported to have died from the use of the
Researchers in Germany have produced wartime photographs of piles of
industrial sand paper, often shown loaded onto boxcars before shipment
to concentration camps. Other photographs show empty boxcars prior to
the loading of the sand paper.
Documentation recently viewed by the Simon Wiesenthal Center affirms
that the sand paper manufacturer of Sweden which filled Nazi German
orders and which is a subsidiary of the American Company
International Industrial Paper Suppliers knew what the paper was
being used for but continued to supply it anyway. A SWC spokesman
announced that it, in conjunction with the World Jewish Congress and
the International Federation of Jewish Deputies, would be launching
lawsuits against both the subsidiary and its parent corporation for
complicity in the Holocaust. Early reports project a seeking of
damages in the region of US$18 Billion.
An IIPS representative made a terse comment about the revelations: We
are deeply shocked and saddened to learn of this lamentable wartime
activity by our company, stated Thomas Harkins. A recent company
board meeting has already authorized meetings with Jewish
representatives and Holocaust survivor associations to work out
appropriate compensations. We cannot express our guilt and regrets
sufficiently. We feel morally indebted to Jewish people for bringing
these facts to our attention, and we pray that this will never happen
2001 World News Service.